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Auto industry to press Congress for $50B in loans

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Auto industry allies hope to secure up to $50 billion in government loans this month that would pay to modernize plants and help struggling car makers build more fuel-efficient vehicles.

With Congress returning this coming week from its summer break, the industry plans an aggressive lobbying campaign for the low-interest loans. The situation is growing dire after months of tumbling sales, high gasoline prices and consumers' abandoning profitable trucks and sport utility vehicles.

Lawmakers authorized $25 billion in loans in last year's energy bill to help the companies build fuel-efficient vehicles such as hybrids and electric vehicles. With credit tight, automakers and suppliers now want lawmakers to come up with the money for the program -- and expand the pool of money available to $50 billion over three years.

Industry leaders have argued that the loan guarantees are not a government bailout because it would hasten production of fuel-efficient vehicles and reduce dependence on imported oil.

"This is not about benefiting Wall Street," said Ford Motor Co.'s President of the Americas Mark Fields, referencing recent federal support for the investment firm Bear Stearns and troubled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "This is benefiting Main Street, the working men and women. The auto industry is part of the backbone of the U.S. economy."

The low-interest loans, at rates of about 4 percent to 5 percent, would pay for up to 30 percent of the cost of retooling plants to build hybrids, plug-in hybrids, electric cars and other alternatives.

Ford and General Motors Corp.'s credit ratings have fallen below investment grade, making it difficult for the companies to borrow money at affordable rates. Chrysler, which has been heavily dependent upon truck sales, has been privately held since last year and faces similar problems accessing capital.

"This industry could fall down, literally, or be absorbed if they don't get something in place very soon. I think it's that severe," said Rep. Joe Knollenberg, R-Mich. "Something has to happen pretty quickly because they can't compete paying 15 to 20 percent (interest)."

Industry lobbyists pressed the issue at the recent presidential conventions in Denver and St. Paul, Minn., and members of Michigan's congressional delegation have talked to legislative leaders and the Bush administration about the program. Discussions surround a three-year plan that would make $25 billion in loans available in the first year, followed by $15 billion the second year and $10 billion in the third.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080907/automakers_congress.html
 

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Dont know if its already been posted, but i found this on yahoo news.

Yahoo News said:
WASHINGTON - Auto industry allies hope to secure up to $50 billion in government loans this month that would pay to modernize plants and help struggling car makers build more fuel-efficient vehicles.

With Congress returning this coming week from its summer break, the industry plans an aggressive lobbying campaign for the low-interest loans. The situation is growing dire after months of tumbling sales, high gasoline prices and consumers' abandoning profitable trucks and sport utility vehicles.

Lawmakers authorized $25 billion in loans in last year's energy bill to help the companies build fuel-efficient vehicles such as hybrids and electric vehicles. With credit tight, automakers and suppliers now want lawmakers to come up with the money for the program — and expand the pool of money available to $50 billion over three years.

Industry leaders have argued that the loan guarantees are not a government bailout because it would hasten production of fuel-efficient vehicles and reduce dependence on imported oil.

"This is not about benefiting Wall Street," said Ford Motor Co.'s President of the Americas Mark Fields, referencing recent federal support for the investment firm Bear Stearns and troubled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "This is benefiting Main Street, the working men and women. The auto industry is part of the backbone of the U.S. economy."

The low-interest loans, at rates of about 4 percent to 5 percent, would pay for up to 30 percent of the cost of retooling plants to build hybrids, plug-in hybrids, electric cars and other alternatives.

Ford and General Motors Corp.'s credit ratings have fallen below investment grade, making it difficult for the companies to borrow money at affordable rates. Chrysler, which has been heavily dependent upon truck sales, has been privately held since last year and faces similar problems accessing capital.

"This industry could fall down, literally, or be absorbed if they don't get something in place very soon. I think it's that severe," said Rep. Joe Knollenberg, R-Mich. "Something has to happen pretty quickly because they can't compete paying 15 to 20 percent (interest)."

Industry lobbyists pressed the issue at the recent presidential conventions in Denver and St. Paul, Minn., and members of Michigan's congressional delegation have talked to legislative leaders and the Bush administration about the program. Discussions surround a three-year plan that would make $25 billion in loans available in the first year, followed by $15 billion the second year and $10 billion in the third.

To provide $50 billion in loans, Congress would need to set aside about $7.5 billion to guard against a loan default.

Automakers want to secure the money for the loans before November's election because a new president and Congress could delay the companies' ability to access the loans.

The White House said last week it was talking to members of Congress and the industry about the financing. The issue, meanwhile, has gained a foothold in the presidential campaign in states with many auto workers such as Michigan and Ohio.

Democrat Barack Obama has criticized Republican rival John McCain for not supporting the full $50 billion loan program. McCain said last week he supported fully covering the $25 billion loan program in the energy law.

Congressional leaders have said they are open to an expanded program. But the industry will face a compressed schedule in an election year when many lawmakers will push to leave Washington so they can campaign for re-election this fall.

"We're hopeful that we're making an effective case to get this done between now and the end of this session," said John Bozzella, Chrysler's vice president of external affairs and public policy.

The loans would be available to foreign automakers, but the companies are not expected to seek the money because they are in a better financial situation and priority would be given to companies with plants 20 years or older.
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What are the chances of Congress doing something for America's improvement? How much are the Big 3 investing in "lobbying" for this? What's the cut for congresscrooks anyway?
Given this administration's (exec and legis) priorities, all the Big 3 are probably going to get a long sermon about globalization and learning to compete, etc.
 

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That didn't happen with Chrysler. This is a good investment, unlike Fannie and Freddie which are far more dubious.
Chrysler is a better investment? How?

All 3 companies now carry billions of dollars in debt. Have a low market capitalisation. Really they should be allowed into Chapter 11 to give them a chance to re-organise properly. The danger is they get more loans and don't change by enough.
 

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Chrysler is a better investment? How?

All 3 companies now carry billions of dollars in debt. Have a low market capitalisation. Really they should be allowed into Chapter 11 to give them a chance to re-organise properly. The danger is they get more loans and don't change by enough.
I meant that when Chrysler received the federal loan guarantees in 1979 there was no public money lost.
 

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That's awesome! Not only can my hard earned money go to bailing out irresponsible homeowers and lenders but it can also bail out horribly run companies. What the heck give Wagoner a raise. I'm sure when they turn it around the CEO of these companies will thank us by taking a reasonable paycheck. Nevermind it will suddenly be all their doing when positive things happen.
 

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I meant that when Chrysler received the federal load guarantees in 1979 there was no public money lost.
But you do realize that even though Chrysler paid back the loans with interest it didn't help the company run any better and only delayed their downfall.

That's my fear when it comes to the government offering special loans to the Big 3 now, it temporarily keeps them affloat but doesn't force them to address their failing business model.
 

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I'm still waiting to hear how they're going to pay these "loans" back...kind of hard to do when you're not making any money. Just call it what it really is...a bailout.
 

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I would think that GM fans on a GM board could understand the need for these loans.
If GM Ford and Chrysler fail, WE lose our auto manufacturing base. Do you think we can afford to lose this manufacturing base? Do you want us to become the Belize of auto manufacturing?
I don't like bailouts any more than you, but it is in OUR American self interest to help them get through this automotive depression. I don't understand how you can like or love American cars, but hate the car companies and want them to fail.
It's time we stand up for our car companies, stand up for our laborers, stand up for our country. 7 years ago today, we were together and for our country. It's time that we stand up for our car companies. Anything less hurts America.
 

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the idiots running GM deserve absolutely NOTHING in terms of government support. they have run the business into the ground to the point that it actually appears to have been done intentionally. this company exhibits the world's worst marketing and almost as bad product planning. if anything, at the least, the executives at the top should be forced out like at Fannie and Freddie.
 

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But you do realize that even though Chrysler paid back the loans with interest it didn't help the company run any better and only delayed their downfall.

That's my fear when it comes to the government offering special loans to the Big 3 now, it temporarily keeps them affloat but doesn't force them to address their failing business model.
it was successful until Benz bought them out.
Chrysler has just never been the volume seller compared to GM & Ford.
 
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