Since when is Cadillac the performance division of GM? I gues they're making the CTS into what the "GTO" should have been sort of. That is one hell of a Chevillac but somehow it lacks pedigree.
600 HP SUPER CTS-V!!!
(08:30 May 27, 2004)
Super V! Spy shooters uncover dazzling, 600-hp CTS prototype
By AUTOWEEK
Even the spy shooters were dumbfounded by this dazzler from Cadillac. Many dubbed it CTS-V Plus, only to retract that information, noting the presence of a hood scoop on a car with no superchargers or turbos in its future must mean it is merely a CTS test mule. Our sources beg to differ, however.
We’re told this beast is the forerunner for the maximum General Motors Performance...
Full Article Here
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Super V! Spy shooters uncover dazzling, 600-hp CTS prototype
By AUTOWEEK
Even the spy shooters were dumbfounded by this dazzler from Cadillac. Many dubbed it CTS-V Plus, only to retract that information, noting the presence of a hood scoop on a car with no superchargers or turbos in its future must mean it is merely a CTS test mule. Our sources beg to differ, however.
We’re told this beast is the forerunner for the maximum General Motors Performance...
Full Article Here
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Maximum engine torque for the 5L50-E is 311 lb/ft. It would take a major rework to beef it up enough to handle the LS6.
There's a 6L80-E in the works for 2006, to be used with the 4.6 and 4.4 S/C Northstar, and the LS2, but I don't think they currently have anything with more than 4 gears to handle that much torque (unless they dropped in an Allison!
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Sweet! That Super V is what I want when I win the lottery.
Very different from the Cadillac Super Stretch:
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Very different from the Cadillac Super Stretch:
M-B has 5 speed autos in their AMG line that can take over 500 lb/ft so it cant be a question of "can this be done" it is more like "do we want to do this".Originally posted by MelvinJ@May 27 2004, 06:46 PM
Maximum engine torque for the 5L50-E is 311 lb/ft. It would take a major rework to beef it up enough to handle the LS6.
There's a 6L80-E in the works for 2006, to be used with the 4.6 and 4.4 S/C Northstar, and the LS2, but I don't think they currently have anything with more than 4 gears to handle that much torque (unless they dropped in an Allison!
Maybe they should just buy these transmissions from M-B if they dont want to develop their own.
IMO if they are going to go after BMW and MB with the "regular" Caddy product line and the M and AMG product lines with the V-series they have to upgrade the transmission choices.
With 500 lb/ft of torque, you should be able to get along with a 2-speed Powerglide like dragsters have.Originally posted by jgast18@May 27 2004, 07:27 PM
M-B has 5 speed autos in their AMG line that can take over 500 lb/ft so it cant be a question of "can this be done" it is more like "do we want to do this".
Maybe they should just buy these transmissions from M-B if they dont want to develop their own.
IMO if they are going to go after BMW and MB with the "regular" Caddy product line and the M and AMG product lines with the V-series they have to upgrade the transmission choices.
Like I said, they are working on it for model year after next. In the meantime, the CTS-V was never meant to be a volume piece, so the lack of an automatic isn't a big deal. Cadillac already uses 5-speed automatics in the CTS, SRX, and XLR (and soon the STS).
M-B has 5 speed autos in their AMG line that can take over 500 lb/ft so it cant be a question of "can this be done" it is more like "do we want to do this".Originally posted by jgast18+May 27 2004, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jgast18 @ May 27 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MelvinJ@May 27 2004, 06:46 PM
Maximum engine torque for the 5L50-E is 311 lb/ft. It would take a major rework to beef it up enough to handle the LS6.
There's a 6L80-E in the works for 2006, to be used with the 4.6 and 4.4 S/C Northstar, and the LS2, but I don't think they currently have anything with more than 4 gears to handle that much torque (unless they dropped in an Allison!
Maybe they should just buy these transmissions from M-B if they dont want to develop their own.
IMO if they are going to go after BMW and MB with the "regular" Caddy product line and the M and AMG product lines with the V-series they have to upgrade the transmission choices. [/b][/quote]
Dude, what is your malfunction?
Listen, that 5 speed that they sold to BMW is IN the CTS, just not the V. THEY ARE DEVELOPING a 6 speed auto that will handle the power. The Tremec T-56 in the CTS-V is one of the best manuals around. Does BMW sell an M5 with an auto? Uh no.
Stop nit picking reasons to dump on caddy when they are coming out with a 600 HP engine.
Also, I would like to point out that when the article came out saying it was the CTS V plus, I said the there must be something we dont know about it because of that hoodscoop, seeing how the LS2 isnt physically bigger than the LS6. I guess there was somethign we dont know.
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