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What are the changes throughout the years for the 82-92, like how to identify each year? I know the other 3 gens, but the 3rd gens have my stymied.


 

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3rd Gen. F-Bodys are kinda easy to tell the difference between the years, the less slope (more boxy) the earlier....but how in the world do you tell the difference between a 93-97 or 98-02 F-Body??
 

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posaune.... watch it.... <_<


third gens are easy.
82-84 cars had a smaller front nose. top model is the Z28. Engine power was down in these years with the largest motor a high output 305 making 190hp. It was a carbed 4bbl.
84 Z28-



85-90 are the IROC years. larger nose, larger ground effects. IROC's came with a special "grid" style tail lights as did Z28's. Z28's and IROC's all got a distictive black louvered hood. From 85-87, IROC's were a trim level of the Z28. The rims were 16 inches and had a single, wide dark stripe running down the middle of each spoke. 85 and 86, top engine was the TPI 305 making 215hp in 85, and then in 86 it was detuned with the smaller infamous "peanut" cam and was rated at 190hp. In 87, the 350 returned to the line up as did the vert model. The 350TPI made 225hp and only came in auto. The 5spd could now be gotten with the 305 TPI and the 305 got the 350's larger cam, and raised the HP of the 5spd only 305's to 215hp. By 87, the L69 or High Output 305 was gone. Z28's got a 2 tone paint while the IROC's got monochromatic paint with "IROC-Z" on the doors.
87 IROC


87 Z28(crappy picture of my car...)


In 88, the Z28 left, and the IROC was the top model. 88-90 top IROC's came with 16 inch rims, but were of a different style. In 88, the introduction of the RS model to the whole US started along with the L03 TBI 305 to replace the aged LG4 carbed low-power 305. In 88, the 1LE model could be had. It got larger disk brakes, aluminum drive shaft, AC delete, and radio delete. The 1LE cars had either the TPI 350 or TPI 305 5spd. It also got a baffled gas tank to keep pump sumerged in gas during hard cornering. The 1LE also got many suspension upgrades.
89 IROC-


In 90, the TPI system went from a mass air flow set up to a speed/density set up. This removed the MAF from the intake track and improved air flow and increaed HP by 5. That and the addition of the dual cats and cam revision increased the power of the 350 and 305 5spd cars. Chevy lost the contract to IROC racing, and the Z28 returned to being the top model. In 91 and 92, the RS was the base model that got either a 3.1 v6 or a 305 TBI engine. The Z28 got any of the V8's. By 92, the 350 was making 245hp out of a dual cat set up and the 305 5spd G92 model was making 230hp (both higher then the 5.0 Mustang's raiting of the time).
The 91-92 Z28's no longer had the IROC hood and they were replaced with the "speed blisters".
92 Z28-


I left a lot of info out, but the pictures should help you out. If you need anymore info, let me know.
 

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altough I have a gta, I never get tired of those iroc and 91 92 z28's!

do you have a pic with a race camaro also?
 

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PontiacJ8  Posted on Apr 2 2004, 03:46 AM
  3rd Gen. F-Bodys are kinda easy to tell the difference between the years, the less slope (more boxy) the earlier....but how in the world do you tell the difference between a 93-97 or 98-02 F-Body??
easily... 93-96 z's have all red tail lights, 97 has amber turn signals in the tail lights, also 97 ss's did not come with the "ss" spoiler
98 z28's do not have painted mirrors, they are black
99-00 painted to match the car mirrors, 5 star rims
01-02 different rims (not 5 stars)

its not to hard.. :afro:
 

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Originally posted by bigals87z28@Apr 2 2004, 12:57 AM
posaune.... watch it.... <_<


third gens are easy.
82-84 cars had a smaller front nose. top model is the Z28. Engine power was down in these years with the largest motor a high output 305 making 190hp. It was a carbed 4bbl.
84 Z28-



85-90 are the IROC years. larger nose, larger ground effects. IROC's came with a special "grid" style tail lights as did Z28's. Z28's and IROC's all got a distictive black louvered hood. From 85-87, IROC's were a trim level of the Z28. The rims were 16 inches and had a single, wide dark stripe running down the middle of each spoke. 85 and 86, top engine was the TPI 305 making 215hp in 85, and then in 86 it was detuned with the smaller infamous "peanut" cam and was rated at 190hp. In 87, the 350 returned to the line up as did the vert model. The 350TPI made 225hp and only came in auto. The 5spd could now be gotten with the 305 TPI and the 305 got the 350's larger cam, and raised the HP of the 5spd only 305's to 215hp. By 87, the L69 or High Output 305 was gone. Z28's got a 2 tone paint while the IROC's got monochromatic paint with "IROC-Z" on the doors.
87 IROC


87 Z28(crappy picture of my car...)


In 88, the Z28 left, and the IROC was the top model. 88-90 top IROC's came with 16 inch rims, but were of a different style. In 88, the introduction of the RS model to the whole US started along with the L03 TBI 305 to replace the aged LG4 carbed low-power 305. In 88, the 1LE model could be had. It got larger disk brakes, aluminum drive shaft, AC delete, and radio delete. The 1LE cars had either the TPI 350 or TPI 305 5spd. It also got a baffled gas tank to keep pump sumerged in gas during hard cornering. The 1LE also got many suspension upgrades.
89 IROC-


In 90, the TPI system went from a mass air flow set up to a speed/density set up. This removed the MAF from the intake track and improved air flow and increaed HP by 5. That and the addition of the dual cats and cam revision increased the power of the 350 and 305 5spd cars. Chevy lost the contract to IROC racing, and the Z28 returned to being the top model. In 91 and 92, the RS was the base model that got either a 3.1 v6 or a 305 TBI engine. The Z28 got any of the V8's. By 92, the 350 was making 245hp out of a dual cat set up and the 305 5spd G92 model was making 230hp (both higher then the 5.0 Mustang's raiting of the time).
The 91-92 Z28's no longer had the IROC hood and they were replaced with the "speed blisters".
92 Z28-


I left a lot of info out, but the pictures should help you out. If you need anymore info, let me know.
Just to correct a few things in 91-92 you could only get TPI motors in the Z28's. The TBI was only available for the RS. Also the 16 inch rims on the 91-92 Cars were the same with no difference between them, but the Z 28's did get larger tires. The G92, rear end upgrade, automatically selected the 245 series Gatorbacks. In 90 the interior got an upgrade to include a driverside air bag. In 88 the sport coupe had a optional rear wing that looked like a shorter version of the 91-92 Z wing, commonly reffered to as the F40 wing. The 85-86 SC had optional fog lights that went into the louvered front grill. The Irocs of 88-90 had optional 15 inch rims when paired with the 305 TBI motors. This was the basment version of the Iroc. The Bertilenetta was available from 82-86 with a very small production of 86. From 84-86 it featured a totally digital dash, the only one ever offered in a Camaro, and also a pod mounted radio. In 87 you had the low production and one year only LT model, these are kinda rare and in fact only 3 LT convertables are known to exist. In 87 you also had the 20th anniversary Z28 cars. The 20th Z convertables are Extrememly rare and valuable in fact some sell for as much as $20K right now. In 87 ASC was allowed to perform factory authorized convertables for Camaro's only, they have a different vin than the standart Camaro. Factory authorized Firebird Verts weren't available till 91. From 90-92 the 350 was NOT available with Ttops. If you find such a beast look on the SPID label for the following codes. If the car did originally have both the codes B2L, L98, and CC1 will appear on the label. If not the car has been tampered with and it isn't legit. If you do find one post about it on thirdgen.org the BEST site for 3rd gen Technical knowlege.

Wow that turned out to be kinda long.
 

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Originally posted by 88monte@Apr 2 2004, 02:26 AM
PontiacJ8   Posted on Apr 2 2004, 03:46 AM
   99-00 painted to match the car mirrors, 5 star rims
01-02 different rims (not 5 stars)
That's not true. 98-99 have black mirrors. 00 was the start of the new (ugly) wheels & body-colored mirrors.
 

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Originally posted by PaleGreen+Apr 2 2004, 05:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PaleGreen @ Apr 2 2004, 05:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-88monte@Apr 2 2004, 02:26 AM
PontiacJ8   Posted on Apr 2 2004, 03:46 AM
   99-00 painted to match the car mirrors, 5 star rims
01-02 different rims (not 5 stars)
That's not true. 98-99 have black mirrors. 00 was the start of the new (ugly) wheels & body-colored mirrors. [/b][/quote]
That's right. The 1997 thru 1999 Camaros had the five spoke wheel design. 2000 is when the hideous wheels came out. 1993 Z28's also had yellow numbers and letters inside like the late third gen cars. I believe it was 1995 when the name "Camaro" was taken off of the fenders of V6 models.
 

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91-92 Z28s, short of the 1st gens, the best looking Camaros.
I would really dig a 350 TPI with 5-speed in a 91-92 Z28. :D
Several of those late 80s Z28s and IROCs look great, too.
(Anything will beat the nasty 4th gen Camaros... ugh.)
 

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I'll add to it...

To tell IROC-Z's apart...

85 did NOT have a 3rd brake.
86 had the 3rd brake light on the exterior of the hatch glass.
87-90 had the 3rd brake light in the wing.
85-87 had the IROC-Z on the front of the doors.
85-87 said Z28 on the ground effects and rear bumper.
88-90 had IROC-Z on the rear of the doors.
88-90 had IROC-Z on the ground effects and rear bumper.
90 had the upgraded interior.
85-87 had a single slit on the wheels.
88-90 had 2 slits on the wheels.

I REALLY miss my 89 :(


You'll notice I had the 91 Z28 wheels on mine.
 

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Originally posted by BRMike+Apr 2 2004, 09:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BRMike @ Apr 2 2004, 09:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 05:22 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-88monte
@Apr 2 2004, 02:26 AM
PontiacJ8   Posted on Apr 2 2004, 03:46 AM
   99-00 painted to match the car mirrors, 5 star rims
01-02 different rims (not 5 stars)

That's not true. 98-99 have black mirrors. 00 was the start of the new (ugly) wheels & body-colored mirrors.
That's right. The 1997 thru 1999 Camaros had the five spoke wheel design. 2000 is when the hideous wheels came out. 1993 Z28's also had yellow numbers and letters inside like the late third gen cars. I believe it was 1995 when the name "Camaro" was taken off of the fenders of V6 models.[/b][/quote]
probably should check your facts-this is a shot of my 2000 Z 28 with factory wheels
 

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Originally posted by redhotz+May 31 2004, 10:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (redhotz @ May 31 2004, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 05:22 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-88monte
@Apr 2 2004, 02:26 AM
PontiacJ8   Posted on Apr 2 2004, 03:46 AM
   99-00 painted to match the car mirrors, 5 star rims
01-02 different rims (not 5 stars)

That's not true. 98-99 have black mirrors. 00 was the start of the new (ugly) wheels & body-colored mirrors.

That's right. The 1997 thru 1999 Camaros had the five spoke wheel design. 2000 is when the hideous wheels came out. 1993 Z28's also had yellow numbers and letters inside like the late third gen cars. I believe it was 1995 when the name "Camaro" was taken off of the fenders of V6 models.
probably should check your facts-this is a shot of my 2000 Z 28 with factory wheels [/b][/quote]
What's your build date? It'd have to be really early in the year to get those wheels.

That's just like some really early 97's got the 93-96 interior, rather than the updated 97-02 interior.
 

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And I thought my friend's fox-bodied Mustang of the same years looked ugly (although his dash stands out as a truly hideous display of design). All the mfrs must have been into the box-design theme. Couple this with a detuned motor and you have some pretty bleak years.
All I can say is that I didn't miss much while buying minivans in that period.
 

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Originally posted by 69nova@Jun 2 2004, 12:15 PM
And I thought my friend's fox-bodied Mustang of the same years looked ugly (although his dash stands out as a truly hideous display of design). All the mfrs must have been into the box-design theme. Couple this with a detuned motor and you have some pretty bleak years.
All I can say is that I didn't miss much while buying minivans in that period.
ahhhhh ok? For the time, the 5.0 Mustangs and Fbodies were some of the best bang for the buck performance cars.
Like I said in the other thread, the 85 Iroc posted a better skid pad number then Corvette, Supra, 300zx, and Mustang GT.
They ran better times in the 1/4 then a lot of the fabled muscle cars of the 60's. 396 Camaros ran low 15's to high 14's from what I understand, and the weak and bleek TPI 305 can do that, not to mention the 350 cars and 305 5spds.
I think the Camaros look like 80's Ferrari's in a way. And having a red one helps that out too :D .

I cant stand the 5.0's body style. The headlights never match up, and the Escort styling is for the birds. I like the interior of the third gens much better then Fords. For its time, the interior looks pretty good.
 

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I am not doubting that the mustangs were the best ofthe lot in those lean years, performance-wise. But they are not easy on the eyes. And that dash with the big rectangular gauge portion that jets out from the rest of the contour is really a nightmare (he owns an 89).
Best bang for the buck and all that, you have no disagreement from me. Looks-wise, I stand with my earlier reply.
 

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Originally posted by 69nova@Jun 2 2004, 07:15 AM
And I thought my friend's fox-bodied Mustang of the same years looked ugly (although his dash stands out as a truly hideous display of design). All the mfrs must have been into the box-design theme. Couple this with a detuned motor and you have some pretty bleak years.
All I can say is that I didn't miss much while buying minivans in that period.
It was the 80's. EVERY manufacturer was into the squared look.
 

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I'll never sell my camaro. Too fun of a project, although it is "resting" right now.
I should add that in 91 and 92 they turned the guages, all the buttons, HVAC, and shift indicators yellow. YUCK.
 

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Originally posted by PeptoPro@Jun 8 2004, 12:39 AM
I should add that in 91 and 92 they turned the guages, all the buttons, HVAC, and shift indicators yellow. YUCK.
They did that in 90 - along with the driver side air bag.
 

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Originally posted by posaune@Apr 2 2004, 02:33 AM
82-85 ugly

86-89 still ugly but a little better

90-92 a little better, but still ugly and now dated

sorry couldn't help it.
((((UGLY ARE YOU MADD SER?)))) <_< Shure they got dated being they were around for so long but they were (aspecially in there latter years) good looking well proportioned cars. Personilly I think they should have got there restyle in 88 or 89 instead of 93 but they were ((FAR)) from UGLY!------------------UGLY I mean (REALLY SER) You do jest do you NOT? :rolleyes:
 
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