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No turbo but more power
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11/18/2020
by Brian Wong




One of the most enduring automotive arguments since the Subaru BRZ’s debut for the 2012 model year has involved whether it needs more power. The coupe’s good qualities have never been in question; it has always been fun to drive with great balance and dialed-in steering. But the “what if it had a turbocharger?” question has persisted.

The redesigned 2022 BRZ will come with a new engine, but no turbocharger. We’re just glad the BRZ gets a second generation rather than going the way of the dodo.
As anticipated, the 2022 BRZ gets a larger engine with a new 2.4-liter flat-4 replacing the outgoing model’s 2.0-liter flat-4. Output increases to 228 horsepower and 184 pound-feet of torque from the 205 hp and 156 lb-ft in the old car. Perhaps more importantly, access to that torque should come easier, with the new engine hitting max torque at 3,700 rpm rather than the 6,700 rpm required previously. Max horsepower is still not achieved until 7,000 rpm, though.

Subaru has a 2.4-liter turbocharged flat-4 in its lineup that lives in the Ascent, but as much as I would have liked to see that engine in the BRZ there is no indication that will happen for now. Too bad.

Transmission choices still include a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic that comes with a new Sport mode. That mode features automatic rev matching on downshifts and uses yaw sensors to hold a lower gear during hard cornering, which will help keep the engine in the power and prevent shifts from disrupting the chassis mid-corner.

This powertrain update won’t satiate enthusiasts who have been clamoring for the BRZ and its Toyota 86 sibling to offer forced induction. Subaru hinted that cost is the issue. There are those (this author included) who’d be inclined to pay more if it meant getting a more responsive engine to match the car’s handling prowess, but that’s not the direction Subaru decided to go.
Subaru says the BRZ’s center of gravity has moved even lower and the car has “near perfect” weight distribution. The suspension has roughly the same equipment, with MacPherson struts up front and a double-wishbone rear suspension with a stabilizer bar, but Subaru made no mention of the Sachs performance dampers that came with the Performance Package and on the special editions of the previous generation. Our guess is that some kind of upgraded shock will debut when the new BRZ debuts its own tS version or other performance variant.

A limited-slip differential is still standard and wheel sizes have grown from 17 to 18 inches on Limited models. Subaru hasn’t revealed brake sizes or if the Brembo ventilated discs will be offered on the new car.

The chassis is more rigid thanks to reinforcements in multiple areas and Subaru claims a 50% increase in torsional stability, providing sharper turn-in and more front-end responsiveness—two areas that were already BRZ strengths. According to preliminary figures, these reinforcements and the move to a larger engine haven’t added much weight to the car. BRZ Limited models have a curb weight of 2,835 pounds with the manual transmission and 2,881 pounds with the automatic, a weight gain of 37 and 41 pounds, respectively.
The updated interior retains the same look and feel, with tweaks that include the gauge cluster. It now features a 7-inch digital display, with a tachometer taking up much of the real estate. Flip the BRZ into Track mode and the gauge cluster changes to a horizontal graph that makes it easier to see the rpm at a glance. The multimedia screen has grown by an inch to 8.0 inches, and some of the climate controls have shifted locations.

Any real judgment on the 2022 BRZ will have to wait until we can get behind the wheel. Though we’re still hoping for a turbocharger, it doesn’t seem likely. Instead, it appears Subaru has updated the BRZ to push the car’s strengths even further. If the new engine’s torque is more accessible, that might be enough for buyers who wanted more power.

Pricing and fuel economy information are yet to be revealed for the 2022 BRZ. Watch for it to go on sale in early fall of next year
 

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Glad Subaru is keeping this car. Hopefully, Chevrolet can learn something about it and keep Camaro
Gm would have to change the Camaro to something that would likely offend most of their current buyers. The problem is, even though the Camaro this gen is a little lighter, it is still designed to compete with the Mustang and to appeal to the people who currently buy them.....last article I read 2-3 years ago said the average (or median) age buyer of a Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger had surpassed 60 years of age. The Suburu BRZ, on the other hand, has a median age buyer of only 36, more than 20 years LESS than those who buy the Camaro and other domestics.

Median age of Suburu BRZ buyers: https://www.automobilemag.com/news/6-cool-facts-2017-subaru-brz/
 

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Gm would have to change the Camaro to something that would likely offend most of their current buyers. The problem is, even though the Camaro this gen is a little lighter, it is still designed to compete with the Mustang and to appeal to the people who currently buy them.....last article I read 2-3 years ago said the average (or median) age buyer of a Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger had surpassed 60 years of age. The Suburu BRZ, on the other hand, has a median age buyer of only 36, more than 20 years LESS than those who buy the Camaro and other domestics.

Median age of Suburu BRZ buyers: https://www.automobilemag.com/news/6-cool-facts-2017-subaru-brz/
The BRZ may have a much lower aged customer base, but last I looked the sales volume (and the related Toyota) are pretty poor. It wouldn't surprise me if the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger sell more in total to the under 35 folks, just offset by a large, older customer base giving that average of 60.
 

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The BRZ may have a much lower aged customer base, but last I looked the sales volume (and the related Toyota) are pretty poor. It wouldn't surprise me if the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger sell more in total to the under 35 folks, just offset by a large, older customer base giving that average of 60.
That might be true, probably is.

A somewhat but not totally related issue is the image that presents. I am in my 40's, and I know more than a couple friends/relatives/co-workers who will not consider a Camaro/Mustang/Corvette because they view it as an 'old persons car' because of who they see driving around in it. Now to be fair....these all aren't people who were going to buy one for sure and decided not to....but they might have been knocked a few spot down their list of potential vehicles because of the image they portray. To many on here, we don't understand it..but image does matter to many car buyers.
 

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That might be true, probably is.

A somewhat but not totally related issue is the image that presents. I am in my 40's, and I know more than a couple friends/relatives/co-workers who will not consider a Camaro/Mustang/Corvette because they view it as an 'old persons car' because of who they see driving around in it. Now to be fair....these all aren't people who were going to buy one for sure and decided not to....but they might have been knocked a few spot down their list of potential vehicles because of the image they portray. To many on here, we don't understand it..but image does matter to many car buyers.
I understand what they are saying, but they also have to look at the non-celebrity people that get out of Ferrari's, high end Germans, etc. - the reality is most of those high buck cars are old people driving them too - they are the only one's with the money. Just like the Camaro, Mustang, etc - a lot of the young just don't have the money for them and the maintenance, like tires that only last 20k miles, etc.. Either way, doesn't bode well for the sports car market.
 
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