Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
Isn't it due for a new frame? Or that just the HD's
Isn't it due for a new frame? Or that just the HD's
2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
2019 “MCE” of K2xx can be revolutionary by creatively employing tools ‘we already have’ in the K2xx. Keep all chassis and mechanical components, but re order Silverado wheelbases, cabs and box lengths to create new cab/box combinations.
To standardize bed/box combinations with each wheelbase length, use the 4.8” longer regular cab 8ft box rear overhang on all Silverado boxes.
Previous 19” difference between 79" standard box and 98" long box is reduced to 16.” 69” Short Box was only 10” shorter than 79” standard box. It loses four inches and is now 16” shorter than the new 81" Standard Box.
Regular Cab redubbed “Single Cab.” Add 4” to the current Regular Cab 8ft wheelbase for a 137.” Add 5” of cab length. Cab to axle decrease of 1” yields new 97” box.
Short wheelbase Single cab combines 5” longer cab with 3” longer 121” wheelbase and five inches more rear overhang. It makes for a 2” longer 81” cargo box.
Reflect increased “Lifestyle” use of Double cab more for behind seat toys and tools. Three inch shorter Double cab length and longer box overhang means Double Cab triples in box combinations from K2xx.
New class leading Crew Cab is 3 inches longer. Standard box model retains current 153” wheelbase but adds 5” rear overhang to deliver industry leading 6.75 ft box.
Short box gets 4 inches shorter to 5’5.” Cab to rear axle is 10” shorter than K2xx short box. This allows for a Double Cab short box model for the first time.
The new Crew Cab short box model is on a 6.5” shorter, easy handling 137” wheelbase shared with the Double Cab standard box and Single Cab long box.
Previous 79” standard box increased to class leading 81.”
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2019 “MCE” of K2xx can be revolutionary by creatively employing tools ‘we already have’ in the K2xx. Keep all chassis and mechanical components, but re order Silverado wheelbases, cabs and box lengths to create new cab/box combinations.
To standardize bed/box combinations with each wheelbase length, use the 4.8” longer regular cab 8ft box rear overhang on all Silverado boxes.
Previous 19” difference between 79" standard box and 98" long box is reduced to 16.” 69” Short Box was only 10” shorter than 79” standard box. It loses four inches and is now 16” shorter than the new 81" Standard Box.
Regular Cab redubbed “Single Cab.” Add 4” to the current Regular Cab 8ft wheelbase for a 137.” Add 5” of cab length. Cab to axle decrease of 1” yields new 97” box.
Short wheelbase Single cab combines 5” longer cab with 3” longer 121” wheelbase and five inches more rear overhang. It makes for a 2” longer 81” cargo box.
Reflect increased “Lifestyle” use of Double cab more for behind seat toys and tools. Three inch shorter Double cab length and longer box overhang means Double Cab triples in box combinations from K2xx.
New class leading Crew Cab is 3 inches longer. Standard box model retains current 153” wheelbase but adds 5” rear overhang to deliver industry leading 6.75 ft box.
Short box gets 4 inches shorter to 5’5.” Cab to rear axle is 10” shorter than K2xx short box. This allows for a Double Cab short box model for the first time.
The new Crew Cab short box model is on a 6.5” shorter, easy handling 137” wheelbase shared with the Double Cab standard box and Single Cab long box.
Previous 79” standard box increased to class leading 81.”
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Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
Thanks for commenting Ed.
The revelator was me
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I had been kicking around a number of complaints about what I - and other GMIers - have been asking for in the restyled Silvy.
1. Double Cab only comes with one bed.
2. Regular Cab too small.
3. Only the 143.5 WB chassis has more than one bed/box combo. Everything else is one 'model' per wheelbase.
4. Eight foot box available only on Regular Cab
5. Double cab door handles took away 'sleek' styling of Extended Cab.
6. Bay type doors superior for behind seat stowage function.
7. Cries for a return of Avalanche. Shorter wheelbase CC short box mimics Avalanche but doesn't compete so closely with Suburban.
8. Long held desire for a Blazer return answered with 121" DC short box. Offers Blazer's functionality and passenger space - doesn't compete with Tahoe.
I wanted this to be a bill of particulars that shows *exactly* how we could use 'what we already have' - the 52" overhang of the 8ft Long Box, even the same 153" wheelbase of the CC Standard Box, same basic frame and chassis components - to cut one of the wheelbase lengths (current RC 8ft) but yield two additional 'models' or cab/box combos.
I think the big objection to this would be that *all* the cabs should be longer. The problem there is that ruins the 'rationalization' because if we take the 19" difference between the current long box and standard and project that to short box we end up with a ridiculously long Crew Cab combined with a comically short short box of only 60."
Thanks for commenting Ed.
The revelator was me
I had been kicking around a number of complaints about what I - and other GMIers - have been asking for in the restyled Silvy.
1. Double Cab only comes with one bed.
2. Regular Cab too small.
3. Only the 143.5 WB chassis has more than one bed/box combo. Everything else is one 'model' per wheelbase.
4. Eight foot box available only on Regular Cab
5. Double cab door handles took away 'sleek' styling of Extended Cab.
6. Bay type doors superior for behind seat stowage function.
7. Cries for a return of Avalanche. Shorter wheelbase CC short box mimics Avalanche but doesn't compete so closely with Suburban.
8. Long held desire for a Blazer return answered with 121" DC short box. Offers Blazer's functionality and passenger space - doesn't compete with Tahoe.
I wanted this to be a bill of particulars that shows *exactly* how we could use 'what we already have' - the 52" overhang of the 8ft Long Box, even the same 153" wheelbase of the CC Standard Box, same basic frame and chassis components - to cut one of the wheelbase lengths (current RC 8ft) but yield two additional 'models' or cab/box combos.
I think the big objection to this would be that *all* the cabs should be longer. The problem there is that ruins the 'rationalization' because if we take the 19" difference between the current long box and standard and project that to short box we end up with a ridiculously long Crew Cab combined with a comically short short box of only 60."
Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
Like the myth that this is harder to get into the GMT900 Extended Cab than a K2XX Double-cab? :lmao:
(Enjoy your Double-Cab) :yup:
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(also note the front doors are now almost 3" shorter too)
OK, OK, let me clarify............ "as in real people (or large items) can't easily get in and out of the back"
Like the myth that this is harder to get into the GMT900 Extended Cab than a K2XX Double-cab? :lmao:
(Enjoy your Double-Cab) :yup:
(also note the front doors are now almost 3" shorter too)
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Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
Gotcha! (good work)
GM should hire you to work in their Product Development Department.
Thanks for commenting Ed.
The revelator was me
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I had been kicking around a number of complaints about what I - and other GMIers - have been asking for in the restyled Silvy.
1. Double Cab only comes with one bed.
2. Regular Cab too small.
3. Only the 143.5 WB chassis has more than one bed/box combo. Everything else is one 'model' per wheelbase.
4. Eight foot box available only on Regular Cab
5. Double cab door handles took away 'sleek' styling of Extended Cab.
6. Bay type doors superior for behind seat stowage function.
7. Cries for a return of Avalanche. Shorter wheelbase CC short box mimics Avalanche but doesn't compete so closely with Suburban.
8. Long held desire for a Blazer return answered with 121" DC short box. Offers Blazer's functionality and passenger space - doesn't compete with Tahoe.
I wanted this to be a bill of particulars that shows *exactly* how we could use 'what we already have' - the 52" overhang of the 8ft Long Box, even the same 153" wheelbase of the CC Standard Box, same basic frame and chassis components - to cut one of the wheelbase lengths (current RC 8ft) but yield two additional 'models' or cab/box combos.
I think the big objection to this would be that *all* the cabs should be longer. The problem there is that ruins the 'rationalization' because if we take the 19" difference between the current long box and standard and project that to short box we end up with a ridiculously long Crew Cab combined with a comically short short box of only 60."
Gotcha! (good work)
GM should hire you to work in their Product Development Department.
Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
denali: In this scheme, if you put the Single cab on the 245" chassis you would end up with 97 +16" = 113" or 9'5"
Could be an ideal HD steed for someone.
Ford had a 9ft bed on the F350 from 67-72.
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And the 6.75 standard box was used from 73-96 at Ford.
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denali: In this scheme, if you put the Single cab on the 245" chassis you would end up with 97 +16" = 113" or 9'5"
Could be an ideal HD steed for someone.
Ford had a 9ft bed on the F350 from 67-72.
And the 6.75 standard box was used from 73-96 at Ford.
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Re: 2019 Silverado "Revolutionary Enhancement" wheelbase/cab/box rationalization.
If the 8' bed was available with an extended cab, this truck would be in my driveway already, forward hinged rear doors and all. Although, I'd much rather have the wide swinging, interior hauling room enabling, rear hinged doors. If GM is wondering why they might be loosing customers to Ford and/or Ram, it just might be the options you are offering, or better put, there lack of.
This would have been awesome.
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If the 8' bed was available with an extended cab, this truck would be in my driveway already, forward hinged rear doors and all. Although, I'd much rather have the wide swinging, interior hauling room enabling, rear hinged doors. If GM is wondering why they might be loosing customers to Ford and/or Ram, it just might be the options you are offering, or better put, there lack of.
This would have been awesome.
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