2016 Mercedes-Maybach S600 - First Drive Review

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dslay04

Discussion Starter · Jan 16, 2015

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This is what I think the CT8 should be just as good if not better.

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balthazar

· #2 · Jan 16, 2015 (Edited)

So MB just announced the pricing, and they center punched the 50% mark of the lowest priced Maybach of just 2-3 years ago ($375K).
That's the greatest MSRP reduction in the history of the auto industry (not to mention the torpedo'ing of the maybach 1.0s values), yet you don't even get unique sheet metal vs. before.
This should be an entertaining spectacle…

However, we also think that Daimler needs to take a hard look at the rear-seat entertainment system, which is slow and fiddly.

Uh-oh. Hadn't a relaunched model name with the baggage it carries, ESPECIALLY at this price range, be perfect right out of the gate?

mchicha

· #3 · Jan 16, 2015

Really poor leather stitching going on here. On par with the CTS Seats

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sfbreh

· #4 · Jan 17, 2015

dslay04 said:
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This is what I think the CT8 should be just as good if not better.

CT8 should be halfway between this and an S, minus all the disgusting interior.

It should just be an extended wheelbase S. 130" wheelbase base, or a base 125" and 130" EWB.

mchicha said:
Really poor leather stitching going on here. On par with the CTS Seats

That reminds me.

I was in a 550 not too long ago. Black on black with purple ambient lighting... it was a killer. Totally sexy.

CT6 better come with adjustable ambient lighting or I'm spitting in someone's face. I'll start saving my loogies.

balthazar said:
So MB just announced the pricing, and they center punched the 50% mark of the lowest priced Maybach of just 2-3 years ago ($375K).
That's the greatest MSRP reduction in the history of the auto industry (not to mention the torpedo'ing of the maybach 1.0s values), yet you don't even get unique sheet metal vs. before.
This should be an entertaining spectacle…

Uh-oh. Hadn't a relaunched model name with the baggage it carries, ESPECIALLY at this price range, be perfect right out of the gate?

Technically, there's no price reduction since anyway you slice it, it is now a Mercedes-Maybach and NOT a 57 or a 62, so... not really at all.

Also, this will be just under $200k.

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Envoy4Life

· #5 · Jan 17, 2015

mchicha said:
Really poor leather stitching going on here. On par with the CTS Seats

Are you joking?

Please tell me you're joking.

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Envoy4Life

· #6 · Jan 17, 2015

While this is a very, very, VERY nice car, I still couldn't bring myself to buy it over a Ghost or Flying Spur.

It's still "JUST" a Mercedes-Benz.

mchicha

· #7 · Jan 17, 2015

envoy4life said:
are you joking?

please tell me you're joking.

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Amphibian

· #8 · Jan 17, 2015

I'd be hard pressed to pass RR for this, but it looks like it's every bit as luxurious as it needs to be. Definitely would take it over the nothing-special Flying Spur. Ironically I might skip out on all of these for a S65.

dslay04

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 17, 2015

Amphibian said:
I'd be hard pressed to pass RR for this, but it looks like it's every bit as luxurious as it needs to be. Definitely would take it over the nothing-special Flying Spur. Ironically I might skip out on all of these for a S65.

Car and Driver ranked it higher than the Flying Spur.

dslay04

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 17, 2015

sfbreh said:
CT8 should be halfway between this and an S, minus all the disgusting interior.

It should just be an extended wheelbase S. 130" wheelbase base, or a base 125" and 130" EWB.

That reminds me.

I was in a 550 not too long ago. Black on black with purple ambient lighting... it was a killer. Totally sexy.

CT6 better come with adjustable ambient lighting or I'm spitting in someone's face. I'll start saving my loogies.

Technically, there's no price reduction since anyway you slice it, it is now a Mercedes-Maybach and NOT a 57 or a 62, so... not really at all.

Also, this will be just under $200k.

The pricing is interesting since it's only <30k more than the standard S600. In this market segment, it's a cheap upgrade

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mchicha

· #11 · Jan 17, 2015

dslay04 said:
The pricing is interesting since it's only <30k more than the standard S600. In this market segment, it's a cheap upgrade

for all intents and purposes, its still a 3 pointed star.

It looks like a very very nice place to be. But, of all S classes, the pullman holds the top honor in my mind.

baloo

· #12 · Jan 17, 2015

balthazar said:
That's the greatest MSRP reduction in the history of the auto industry (not to mention the torpedo'ing of the maybach 1.0s values), yet you don't even get unique sheet metal vs. before.

I'm really struggling with your logic here.

'It costs more, yet you don't even get the same content' would be a valid argument, if that was the case.
'It costs less, yet you don't even get the same content' doesn't make much sense to me. That's to be expected when you pay less, no?

Besides, this is obviously not a 1:1 replacement for the Maybach 57/62, so calling it a price reduction is a bit odd when you're talking about a different car serving a different role. When GM introduced the Hummer H3, you wouldn't really call that a Hummer price reduction. It was a different, less expensive model that also carried the Hummer name.

balthazar

· #13 · Jan 17, 2015

Perception-wise, this is a continuation of the same car. Oh, no doubt the MB nerds know the subtleties, but to everyone else; this is the same thing because it's made by the same company, is based on the same sedan and carries the same name. C'mon; it's NOT difficult. OBVIOUSLY it's not a 1:1 replacement, but who would replace a car 1:1 that failed in a few years?

What we have here is something we've seen before (keeping the above in mind); catering to the value shopper by drastically reducing the price. MB does it by competing for the camry consumer, ala the CLA, they're doing the same thing here by cutting the MSRP of a "Maybach" in half ($379K > $187K). That's pretty amazing.

With maybach 1.0, you got some (poorly melted, 1970's 2-toned but) unique body panels, here you have to read the badging to know the owner paid $100K more than the same car sitting across the showroom. Sure, for 50% of the price, you shouldn't expect unique sheet metal, but perhaps instead of cutting everything in half, Daimler should have given it (much more striking & modern) unique sheetmetal AND cut the price. Otherwise, what is the improvement over 1.0 ??

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H3 wasn't a variant on the H1 body/chassis now, was it?

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baloo

· #14 · Jan 17, 2015

balthazar said:
What we have here is something we've seen before (keeping the above in mind); catering to the value shopper by drastically reducing the price. MB does it by competing for the camry consumer, ala the CLA, they're doing the same thing here by cutting the MSRP of a "Maybach" in half ($379K > $187K).

Ah yes, all those $190,000 value shoppers :lmao:

You're really reaching here.

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balthazar

· #15 · Jan 17, 2015

Well, MB certainly failed to lure in the $375-$400+K shoppers, didn't they? It's always all relative.

mgescuro

· #16 · Jan 17, 2015

dslay04 said:
Car and Driver

This is what I think the CT8 should be just as good if not better.

YEaaaaaaah... Try CT12

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chinamonty

· #17 · Jan 17, 2015

It would be a hard choice to make between the Bentley FS, Rolls Ghost and this. I guess it would depend on how much you intend to use it. If everyday of the week then I would lean towards the MB but for less use probably the Bentley. The Ghost is the nicest looking of the current crop of Rollers but it still doesn't either excite me nor feel a cut above the rest like Rollers did in the 70'sand 80's (Bentleys were irrelevant in that era as they were badge engineered Rolls anyway)

Jesda

· #18 · Jan 17, 2015

It's an ugly car. The S-class itself is an ugly-ass car.

sfbreh

· #19 · Jan 17, 2015

mgescuro said:
YEaaaaaaah... Try CT12

CTNCC1701D

I fully expect to own one of these, or Cadillac is dead to me.

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mgescuro

· #20 · Jan 17, 2015

sfbreh said:
CTNCC1701D

I fully expect to own one of these, or Cadillac is dead to me.

Meet ya at 10 Forward?

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