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2016 Cadillac CTS-V Clears its Supercharged V8 Throat on the Nurburgring
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by Mircea Panait
20th October 2014


While we wait for the Detroit Motor Show to open its doors in January and finally get a proper look at the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V, the performance four-door sedan bruiser has been recently caught on film dropping hot laps on the Nurburgring Nordschleife. And we're happy to announce you're in for quite a big treat.

Because Cadillac is in the middle of reinventing itself as a brand and its product lineup, both engineers and designers are making quite an effort with the newest lot of Caddies. That's why the most potent vehicle in Caddy's upcoming lineup - the gorgeous 2016 CTS-V, is going to pack some serious grunt under its angular hood adorned by a big central vent.

In terms of aesthetics, the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V will look pretty much like the 2014 model year, but with a few modern touches added here and there and a bit more oomph squeezed from its supercharged 6.2-liter V8 powerhouse, similar to the same engine that's propelling the 2015 Corvette Z06. It's mum's guess just how many ponies will be sent to the rear wheels, but do expect north of 600 horsepower.


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...it can be as fast as you can make it, as long as it isn't faster than the Corvette
 

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...it can be as fast as you can make it, as long as it isn't faster than the Corvette
Well, the top of the line models like the CTS-V and Camara Z28 is actually just as good or better than the Corvette, until the Z06 comes out which it has not been tested.

The base Corvette is no longer protected for having the best performance. GM is pulling out all the stops and going full force.
 

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...it can be as fast as you can make it, as long as it isn't faster than the Corvette
Mr. Reuss has come out and said right off the gate that in GM there is no sacred cows. Any engineering team is free to make the best car they can.
Autoline McRoy asked Al Oppenheiser if he is held back by corvette and he outright said, its never come up, that was when he visited to sell his Z/28..

the Z/28 has a lot of components develop by Al independently and some bits and pieces from corvette like the brakes. I am convinced that that old order is gone from GM for the better. The products certainly show it.
 

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I just watched the video again and noticed there are vents on the upper rear fenders similar to the same location on the new Vette. They are not easy to see, you have to look really close and at the right angle but I swear I saw something. This car is packing something that needs extra air to keep cool!
 

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I just watched the video again and noticed there are vents on the upper rear fenders similar to the same location on the new Vette. They are not easy to see, you have to look really close and at the right angle but I swear I saw something. This car is packing something that needs extra air to keep cool!
probably cooling the rear diff, the Z/28 lines oil cooler radiator lines back and forth to keep temps in check back there..
 

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650 is what I'm hoping for. North of 650, I would cry, poop myself, and faint, but not necessarily in that order.

But, seeing as the Z06 has the Z06 has 650/650, any less would disappoint me.
 

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650 is what I'm hoping for. North of 650, I would cry, poop myself, and faint, but not necessarily in that order.

But, seeing as the Z06 has the Z06 has 650/650, any less would disappoint me.
It should at least match those 650/650 IMHO. An AWD option would be great too, but don't see it happening...
 

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It should at least match those 650/650 IMHO. An AWD option would be great too, but don't see it happening...
Knowing GM's commitment to AWD in performance cars, we'll have to wait at least 10 years. Heck, even Dodge/Ford will soon offer AWD in their hot-hatches. GM will still have nothing to compete with them.
 

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...it can be as fast as you can make it, as long as it isn't faster than the Corvette
Actually...it's genuinely impossible for it to be faster and quicker than Corvette.

Whatever engine it uses will come off of the Corvette, or will wind up in the Vette.

The CTSv will likely weigh about 4,000 pounds. The Corvette, well under 3500.

Same engine, different weights, the lighter one will always be quicker.

Also, the last top level supercharged CTSv was quicker than the last base model Corvette, so there obviously isn't an absolute restriction at GM on nothing being faster or quicker than a Corvette.

That BMW was rushing to go back home and shed some kilos
It's a lot harder to shed weight on a platform than you might think. It's easier to program up another 50 horsepower than it is to find 10 pounds to lose.
 

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Actually...it's genuinely impossible for it to be faster and quicker than Corvette.

Whatever engine it uses will come off of the Corvette, or will wind up in the Vette.

The CTSv will likely weigh about 4,000 pounds. The Corvette, well under 3500.

Same engine, different weights, the lighter one will always be quicker.

Also, the last top level supercharged CTSv was quicker than the last base model Corvette, so there obviously isn't an absolute restriction at GM on nothing being faster or quicker than a Corvette.



It's a lot harder to shed weight on a platform than you might think. It's easier to program up another 50 horsepower than it is to find 10 pounds to lose.
Exactly.

There is no way a heavier car with a higher cg is going to outperform a lighter/lower car using the same engine.

Never forget driving the newly introduced Camaro SS with 6.2L then driving a Gran Sport Corvette immediately after - no comparison.

The Corvette was far more nimble and accelerated much harder than it's power advantage alone would have delivered.

Assuming similar levels of suspension/tires/brakes, better HP to Lbs and lower CG = better performance every time.
 

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It's a perception issue that Cadillac isn't a priority at GM, not a performance issue.

"It's got a Corvette engine!!!! :):clap::yup::hooray:" = Cadillac only gets hand-me-downs from the only program that GM really cares about.

Not dissing the Z06 in the slightest, but Cadillac definitely needs to create the perception that they are doing their own thing.
 

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It's a perception issue that Cadillac isn't a priority at GM, not a performance issue.

"It's got a Corvette engine!!!! :):clap::yup::hooray:" = Cadillac only gets hand-me-downs from the only program that GM really cares about.

Not dissing the Z06 in the slightest, but Cadillac definitely needs to create the perception that they are doing their own thing.
I dont' mind a super-performance model Cadillac with a Corvette motor, but I always preferred Cadillac and Oldsmobile line-ups because they were the only ones that had their own engines, and Cadillac had its own "premium" chassis. Then they killed Olds and Cadillac exclusive motors and chassis, at least until Omega shows up.

I like my Sigma CTS knowing someone doesn't have 70% of it in a Chevy/Buick... but still not exclusive motor. Not because I am a snob, but because I feel like I got something more/better for the premium I paid. They should bless Buicks and (occasionally Chevy) with Cadillac motors, not have Impalas running around in XTS guise.
 

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Mr. Reuss has come out and said right off the gate that in GM there is no sacred cows. Any engineering team is free to make the best car they can.
Autoline McRoy asked Al Oppenheiser if he is held back by corvette and he outright said, its never come up, that was when he visited to sell his Z/28..

the Z/28 has a lot of components develop by Al independently and some bits and pieces from corvette like the brakes. I am convinced that that old order is gone from GM for the better. The products certainly show it.

So by that reasoning I guess the '15 Chev SS with Magnetic Ride Control AND a LSA will be coming your way soon (effectively a HSV GTS)... that will make an interesting comparison to the CTS-V.
 
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