2015 Ram EcoDiesel versus 2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost – Highway MPG [Report]

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eastcoasthd

Discussion Starter · Feb 15, 2015

2015 Ram EcoDiesel versus 2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost – Highway MPG [Report]
Posted by Andre Smirnov - February 14, 2015
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Which gets better MPGs on the highway? The 2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel or the 2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost? The answer may be obvious if you look at the EPA estimates for each truck, but we had a hunch that we would see different numbers on the stretch of I-25 highway north of Denver. This is TFLtruck’s “eco” real-world fuel economy test.

Route / Environment:

The highway run consists of a 33.5 mile highway-only loop: 18 miles northbound on I-25 and 15.5 miles southbound. Both trucks were tested the same day (Feb 13, 2015) within two hours of each other. The temperature was around 64F with calm wind conditions. Both trucks accelerated with partial throttle via the on-ramp and cruise control was set at 65 MPH. We selected 65 MPH because this is the speed limit on many highways around the country and most states limit the speed of towing pickups to 65 MPH.

Both trucks were empty with one person (the same driver in both trucks). Both trucks had nearly full fuel tanks. The Ford used up several gallons before the test and was showing closer to 3/4 tank.

Result:

The 2015 Ford F-150 SuperCab 2.7L EcoBoost Lariat 4×4 recorded 27.8 MPG on the trip computer. The 2015 Ram 1500 CrewCab 3.0 EcoDiesel Outdoorsman 4×4 recorded 30.1 MPG.

Both trucks cruised effortlessly, but the Ford was actually running closer to 1,700 rpm at 65 mph. The Ram was humming at around 1,900 rpm. The EcoBoost surprised with a number considerable higher than the EPA highway estimates. The EcoDiesel’s result was not a big surprise as diesels tend to get better results on the highway.

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eastcoasthd

Discussion Starter · #2 · Feb 15, 2015

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optiongm

· #3 · Feb 15, 2015

Nice early results. It will be interesting to watch how the 2.7eb does in real world

doh

· #4 · Feb 15, 2015

Interest Numbers.

Dodge diesel gains 2 mpg overall at a lost of 85hp.

Now some here on this site would state that as a Win, But you can maltipy Torque but not HP, so it is a Dodge win, with 420ft/lbs and 45 ft/lbs more.

But Ford wins with the $3700 savings, and the cost of fuel.

CJH

· #5 · Feb 15, 2015

Unscientific, but pretty darn good for both.

Why is the RAM rear end so strong with that much TQ from the engine? Why wouldn't they lower that to eek out more MPG's?

richmond2000

· #6 · Feb 16, 2015

I say it is a win for both as they are different choices
the ED is better and I bet will be better in a wider range of uses BUT the FE does NOT offset the cost of the DIESEL fuel premium
and for truck costs RAM has more sales then FORD at least around here + the NEW F150's hype-O-matic working overtime will (i assume) shore up prices a bit

AMERICA 123

· #7 · Feb 16, 2015

The real take away given the uselessness of the test and then the 'results'...... some - somewhere are still nervous....... about the Ram ED.

dratnol

· #8 · Feb 16, 2015

When the 10 speed comes online it will probably match or beat the ecodiesel. What is the payload capacity of the F-150 in that configuration? The payload of the Ram is a joke in most ecodiesel trims.

AMERICA 123

· #9 · Feb 16, 2015 (Edited)

Yes, it is........ or better said , yes it is - in certain builds and configurations.

And yet .... it still works and still sells more than well enough with good numbers behind the sales figures.

And yes, as has been mentioned previously, one thing to appreciate about the new F150 Series are the vehicle non towing payload capabilities -

So yeah, a bit of a joke in some instances .....

Right up there with the notion an 2.7 EB F150 is going to deliver mpgs within striking range of the ED 3.0 Ram.

Especially under any kind of load and or adverse conditions.

Well, better get used to it because the Colorado / Canyon 2.8TD has some seriously interesting potential / potential mpg as well.

Especially if they bring it with the right AT......

And then.....

Don't want to salt the wound, but really if you place big stock in the coming 10 sp AT then golly, be careful because....... given how that could play even better with a diesel - and with an extra dash on top of that for a 'smaller' 4 in a smaller and lighter truck than Ram.......... you may at least somewhat regret what you wished for.

Of course then there will be what it can provide for all the Gen Vs........

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Speaking of hypotheticals that will change the equations, there are many available to Ram on their next go around as well -

BTW, Is all of this increased EB 2.7 angst a response to the 3.0 ED equipped Ram HFE variant ?

Can we expect more of this kinda' junk from this kind of Ford / Toyota biased 'source' ?

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bballr4567

· #10 · Feb 16, 2015

doh said:
Interest Numbers.

Dodge diesel gains 2 mpg overall at a lost of 85hp.

Now some here on this site would state that as a Win, But you can maltipy Torque but not HP, so it is a Dodge win, with 420ft/lbs and 45 ft/lbs more.

But Ford wins with the $3700 savings, and the cost of fuel.

Crew cab vs Supercab. There's your $3700 savings.

Plus, this was a 32 mile loop. This was not a MPG test at all. It was a first drive that happened to give a MPG result.

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osbornk

· #11 · Feb 16, 2015

Should have run a Colorado/Canyon V6 along with them for a comparison.

sepi

· #12 · Feb 16, 2015

This comparison has to be filed under....

DUHHHHHHHHHHHH

Diesels are inherently more fuel efficient. This test was a joke.

The surprise was how efficient the Ford was. The RAM was no surprise.

RAM does need to be careful - there is a diesel waiting to go into the Ford should there be a sizable enough market for it. This has already been confirmed.

Rock Brocaine

· #13 · Feb 16, 2015

Now around town......

61BelAir

· #14 · Feb 16, 2015

Wow...I know this is a MPG comparison, but the thing that caught my eye was the as tested price of $50k.
Trucks sure have come a long way over the years and so have the prices...ka-ching!

mchicha

· #15 · Feb 16, 2015

richmond2000 said:
I say it is a win for both as they are different choices
the ED is better and I bet will be better in a wider range of uses BUT the FE does NOT offset the cost of the DIESEL fuel premium
and for truck costs RAM has more sales then FORD at least around here + the NEW F150's hype-O-matic working overtime will (i assume) shore up prices a bit

have you seen how heavy that pig is? It needs the torque to move

Rock Brocaine

· #16 · Feb 16, 2015

mchicha said:
have you seen how heavy that pig is? It needs the torque to move

Doesn't matter, it HAS the torque it needs and then some.

Jesda

· #17 · Feb 16, 2015

EB is fine until you start, you know, carrying actual stuff or towing real things.

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RamJet502

· #18 · Feb 16, 2015 (Edited)

"on the trip computer" = WORTHLESS information

The new Ford 2.7L EB only got 15.6mpg in the Ward's test "even under a light foot":

http://wardsauto.com/wards-10-best-engines/where-s-eco-ecoboost

"The observed fuel economy is not that good. The EPA says this engine should get 26 mpg (9 L/100 km) on the highway with 2-wheel drive and 23 mpg (10.2 L/100 km) on the highway with 4-wheel drive. Our 4x4 supercab never got close to that, even under a light foot.

Several editors drove the truck for 253 miles (407 km), and the trip computer displayed a low of 17.6 mpg (13.3 L/100 km) and a high of 19 mpg (12.3 L/100 km).

We checked consumption old-school (253 miles divided by 16.16 gallons [61 L] to refill the tank) and came up with an even more disappointing figure: 15.6 mpg (15 L/100 km)."

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spd98

· #19 · Feb 16, 2015

Re: 2015 Ram EcoDiesel versus 2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost – Highway MPG [Report]

I'm still wondering why a trip computer is considered a good test instrument....

sydtron

· #20 · Feb 16, 2015

A static 65 MPH is hardly representative of anywhere - their choice because it is the "towing pickups" speed limit is only valid if they were towing. I'm guessing there were not too many hills either, even rolling ones can nuke pickup fuel economy.

dratnol said:
When the 10 speed comes online it will probably match or beat the ecodiesel.

I wouldn't be so sure on that - the 8-speed has hardly made a difference for GM for EPA ratings, and the 10-speed will have only a slightly wider gear spread and minimally lower parasitic losses than the 8L90. If they managed a 1 MPG increase on the combined cycle, I'd call that a win.

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