Very odd comparo. Just give me a ZL1.
2015 Ford Mustang GT vs. Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE, Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack
Three great American turnarounds meet again to settle the score:
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"It’s hard to reconcile the 2015 Ford Mustang and its competitors with the city in which muscle cars were born. While decaying Detroit slogs through bankruptcy proceedings, still shrugging off the millstones of its past and working hard to get up and running again, the Ford is fully transformed into something sleek and modern. Meanwhile, its two direct and highly successful foes have recently been freshened with changes of their own."
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"It’s hard to reconcile the 2015 Ford Mustang and its competitors with the city in which muscle cars were born. While decaying Detroit slogs through bankruptcy proceedings, still shrugging off the millstones of its past and working hard to get up and running again, the Ford is fully transformed into something sleek and modern. Meanwhile, its two direct and highly successful foes have recently been freshened with changes of their own."
http://tinyurl.com/Pony-car-comparo
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The results really shouldn't surprise anyone IMHO. But even with that being said, I expect a lot of crying...
Car & Driver
The results really shouldn't surprise anyone IMHO. But even with that being said, I expect a lot of crying...
Agreed. 3 month old Mustang vs 5-6 year old Camaro, this is what should happen. That being said, Ford better have something up it's sleeve for next year. Alpha is a monster platform.Link:
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The results really shouldn't surprise anyone IMHO. But even with that being said, I expect a lot of crying...
Only thing they really knocked the Camaro on is ride comfort and visibility. Everything else was pretty damn close score wise and it was even faster in the 1/4.Agreed. 3 month old Mustang vs 5-6 year old Camaro, this is what should happen. That being said, Ford better have something up it's sleeve for next year. Alpha is a monster platform.
Faster by a tenth, slower by 2 MPH. I'd call that a tie. These two cars are about as close as you can get when it comes to straight up drag racing.Only thing they really knocked the Camaro on is ride comfort and visibility. Everything else was pretty damn close score wise and it was even faster in the 1/4.
I interpreted the results as basically saying that the Camaro is the best driving car out of the three, but is also the least comfortable and hardest to live with. If the Camaro NG can address those two issues, then the Mustang and Challenger are both dead meat.
ET is what matters. It appears that the Mustang has issue putting the power down with its tires but that makes sense given this was a 1LE.Faster by a tenth, slower by 2 MPH. I'd call that a tie. These two cars are about as close as you can get when it comes to straight up drag racing.
I interpreted the results as basically saying that the Camaro is the best driving car out of the three, but is also the least comfortable and hardest to live with. If the Camaro NG can address those two issues, then the Mustang and Challenger are both dead meat.
I wouldnt say least comfortable but the Recaro seats are built for one thing, hold you in the seat, so in day to day driving they can get a bit bulky but they arent that bad.
Plus, the Mustang is a girls car, it has to be more comfortable.Faster by a tenth, slower by 2 MPH. I'd call that a tie. These two cars are about as close as you can get when it comes to straight up drag racing.
I interpreted the results as basically saying that the Camaro is the best driving car out of the three, but is also the least comfortable and hardest to live with. If the Camaro NG can address those two issues, then the Mustang and Challenger are both dead meat.
You're talking 0.1 seconds over a full 1/4 mile. That kind of difference is negligible.ET is what matters. It appears that the Mustang has issue putting the power down with its tires but that makes sense given this was a 1LE.
I wouldnt say least comfortable but the Recaro seats are built for one thing, hold you in the seat, so in day to day driving they can get a bit bulky but they arent that bad.
If you want to talk about putting power down, the Mustang absolutely dusts the Camaro past 100 MPH. A 4.8 second difference at 150 MPH is huge. 0.1 seconds at the 1/4 mile mark means that they're pretty much neck and neck.
The Mustang has been faster than the Camaro in the quarter mile ever since it existed. Big deal.
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Not in the LS1 daysThe Mustang has been faster than the Camaro in the quarter mile ever since it existed. Big deal.
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Look, I'm not saying one isn't fast or not but considering that the GT has both the weight AND power in its corner it still gets beat by the older Camaro. IE, it gets the win light.You're talking 0.1 seconds over a full 1/4 mile. That kind of difference is negligible.
If you want to talk about putting power down, the Mustang absolutely dusts the Camaro past 100 MPH. A 4.8 second difference at 150 MPH is huge. 0.1 seconds at the 1/4 mile mark means that they're pretty much neck and neck.
And no, 4.8 seconds at 150 MPH is only 6 feet or so. Like you just said, kind of negligible.
Regardless, they will ALL be a drivers race.
Challengers not really that big. Mustang and Camaro are just smaller. I grew up driving a '76 Sedan DeVille and my neighbor's 72 Imperial. Those were big.
Bah, it can change the position on the leader board, but you honestly think that one of the cars is going to massively dominate over the others? The Challenger has been trucking along for years now despite being inferior to the Camaro and Mustang in most pony-car respects. And the previous Mustang with its *horror* live rear axle managed to keep from fading away, so I don't see why that will change. Most people will always have their favourite, and I truly believe that the number of people that will buy the car that is objectively the 'best' isn't great enough to crush any of the others.I interpreted the results as basically saying that the Camaro is the best driving car out of the three, but is also the least comfortable and hardest to live with. If the Camaro NG can address those two issues, then the Mustang and Challenger are both dead meat.
NO OFFENCE, but the Camaro should had posted a better 0-60 & 1/4 Mile time being that its wearing 285 tires.....The Challenger ran the same 12.9 in the 1/4 Mile (could had been quicker if it was a AUTO) and was quicker to 60 than Both Cars.
You do realize that the 6.4 Hemi is making 60 hp and 55 ft-lbs of tq more than the LS3.NO OFFENCE, but the Camaro should had posted a better 0-60 & 1/4 Mile time being that its wearing 285 tires.....The Challenger ran the same 12.9 in the 1/4 Mile (could had been quicker if it was a AUTO) and was quicker to 60 than Both Cars.
shhh....he doesn't understand how cars work or what all these numbers mean...
Still a snooze fest. The most interesting car here in terms of packaging is the 1LE, but there is still so much wrong with the car the high points don't really matter. And of course it's well past due that a modern pony-car was imbued with world class interior design and materials, so the Mustang is significant in that respect; but like the Camaro there are still far too many missteps to be anything like the car it should be. This segment has just gotten boring and there is very little real innovation here, still a real disappointment for a ponycar fan.
I got behind a new Mustang yesterday and I remember when the new Camaro came out people calling to cartoonish, let me tell you this new Mustang is so exaggerated it's very cartoonish!
Same thing was being said in 2010/2011... Mustang was knocking off the Camaro in comparison tests, despite its old platform. S550 wasn't a cure-all, and neither will Alpha.Agreed. 3 month old Mustang vs 5-6 year old Camaro, this is what should happen. That being said, Ford better have something up it's sleeve for next year. Alpha is a monster platform.
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