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Aluminum F-series claims best gas-engine truck mpg, but falls short of earlier Ford predictions

Ford has released fuel economy ratings for its new aluminum-intensive 2015 F-150 pickup truck. Models with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 will return 17 mpg city and 24 on the highway for a combined average of 20 mpg. The new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 mill will net you 19 mpg in the city, 26 on the highway for a combined average of 22 mpg. That 26 mpg figure technically makes it the most fuel-efficient gasoline-fed full-size pickup on the market; it's still topped in overall pickup mileage by the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, which achieves 28 mpg highway. The EPA rated the new Ford pickups on Friday.


The 2015 Ram 1500 with a 3.6-liter V6 gasoline engine gets 18 mpg in the city and 25 on the highway. That engine only comes with 305 hp, while the 2.7-liter EcoBoost makes 325 hp. The V6-powered Silverado, alternatively, delivers 285 hp and returns 18 mpg in the city and 24 on the highway.

The new F-150 weighs on average 700 pounds less than the outgoing model largely due to its aluminum-intensive body construction. It arrives at dealerships this week.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/2015-ford-f-150-gets-26-mpg-27-liter-ecoboost
 

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Just about to post this. I wouldn't quite say a fail, it is pretty good fuel economy for a brick on wheels. And just one or two mpg's could be enough to sway fleet purchasers.....

The hype was so great I don't think there was much of a way for Ford to live up to it - people would be disapointed even if it were 50mpg.

Interesting choice to make the announcment the Friday before Thanksgiving. Often companies will report disapointing news on a Friday before a major holiday week as the markets are quiet with people being off and on vacation, then when the markets are back to normal the first week of December the news is just a fading memory. Did Ford realize the reality isn't matching up to the hype? What a superbly managed rollout on Ford's part - I wish GM were as adept.
 

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Here is a better list from pickup trucks.com

2015 Naturally Aspirated Engines

4x2 F-150 3.5-liter V-6: 18/25 mpg city/highway
4x4 F-150 3.5-liter V-6: 17/23 mpg city/highway
(2014 F-150 4x2 3.7-liter V-6: 17/23 mpg city/highway)

4x2 F-150 5.0-liter V-8: 15/22 mpg city/highway
4x4 F-150 5.0-liter V-8: 15/21 mpg city/highway
(2014 F-150 4x2 5.0-liter V-8: 15/21 mpg city/highway)

2015 EcoBoost Twin Turbos

4x2 F-150 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6: 19/26 mpg city/highway
4x4 F-150 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6: 18/23 mpg city/highway
(2014 F-150: no equivalent)

4x2 F-150 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6: 17/24 mpg city/highway
4x4 F-150 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6: 17/23 mpg city/highway
(2014 F-150 4x2 3.5-liter V-6: 16/22 mpg city/highway)
(2014 F-150 4x2 6.2-liter V-8: 13/18 mpg city/highway)

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2014/11/ford-releases-2015-f-150-fuel-economy-numbers.html
 

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Surprise Surprise Ford have been giving out all the technical information with everything except the MPG details in their press releases.

Owners will face high cost repair bills for dings in bodywork, which will bump up insurance claims and running costs for owners.

Aussie designed Thai/South African made steel Ranger thats nearly the same size as a F-150, a small diesel in a Ford of Australia designed Ford Ranger returns an averages 32.22 US MPG/returns 35.13 US MPG on the highway, mind you its a bit gutless in comparison to the Ecoboost.

But it has enough torque to pull 160 tonne train out the shed, it gets the job done.
 

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Aluminum F-series claims best gas-engine truck mpg, but falls short of earlier Ford predictions
And just like the current EB trucks, will fall much, much shorter in real world use.
 

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Aluminum F-series claims best gas-engine truck mpg, but falls short of earlier Ford predictions

Ford has released fuel economy ratings for its new aluminum-intensive 2015 F-150 pickup truck. Models with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 will return 17 mpg city and 24 on the highway for a combined average of 20 mpg. The new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 mill will net you 19 mpg in the city, 26 on the highway for a combined average of 22 mpg. That 26 mpg figure technically makes it the most fuel-efficient gasoline-fed full-size pickup on the market; it's still topped in overall pickup mileage by the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, which achieves 28 mpg highway. The EPA rated the new Ford pickups on Friday.


The 2015 Ram 1500 with a 3.6-liter V6 gasoline engine gets 18 mpg in the city and 25 on the highway. That engine only comes with 305 hp, while the 2.7-liter EcoBoost makes 325 hp. The V6-powered Silverado, alternatively, delivers 285 hp and returns 18 mpg in the city and 24 on the highway.

The new F-150 weighs on average 700 pounds less than the outgoing model largely due to its aluminum-intensive body construction. It arrives at dealerships this week.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/2015-ford-f-150-gets-26-mpg-27-liter-ecoboost
Ouch!

So how does GM market against that? We have less payload, but.... We get worse gas mileage... :-/
 

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Owners will face high cost repair bills for dings in bodywork, which will bump up insurance claims and running costs for owners.

Two things:
1.) Ford claims the aluminum they are using is 3 times thicker than steel and will resist most minor bumps that will ding steel.
2.) Big downside is that if the skin IS dinged it will be almost impossible to pull out which means we are talking about an all new panel just for a ding....or bondo, I suppose, if it will adhere to aluminum.
 

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Even with the good mileage of the 2.7EB, it doesn't impress me. With the shutter and start-stop, that's to be expected. What does impress me is the carryover engines. Any improvement over last year was all due to weight reduction and aero improvements (not unless I'm unaware of any gearing changes or ECM changes). But as you can see, loosing 700 isn't the holy grail of improving mileage. And that would go for GM too.
 

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F-150 2.7L EB: 19 city/ 26 hwy/ 22 combined

Colorado 2.5L: 20 city/ 27 hwy/ 22 combined
Colorado 3.6L: 18 city/ 26 hwy/ 21 combined

Considering the 2.7L is rated at 325/375...Ford did just fine.
Considering the 2.7 has start/stop, active shutters, and turbo with a smaller displacement V6, it should be expected to get 19 city and 26 hwy.
 

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I would say those NUMBERS are GOOD and ANYBODY expecting 24/30 or something else is REALLY drinking the Ford kool-aid
and going back 10 years that City Milage is good for the HiWay ratings so I would say the # are in range of where they NEED to be
 
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