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2012 Escalade going FWD, Unibody (Lambda)
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Please not a Traverse with a Cadillac badge...please not a Traverse with a Cadillac badge...
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Not a shock here. I am sure it will be all new sheet metal to capture the Art and Science theme of Cadillac.
What will it do to Enclave is the question? Enclave will have four years to develop a customer base before this version bows.
Also, this will be second generation lambda with two-mode hybrid available I am sure.
What will it do to Enclave is the question? Enclave will have four years to develop a customer base before this version bows.
Also, this will be second generation lambda with two-mode hybrid available I am sure.
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Do we KNOW this?
Makes sense (Saturn is a dead man walking) but I hadn't seen any announcement.
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Someone clue me in - with the new SRX and Escalade on Theta and Lambda - what is the difference between Buick and Cadillac again?
SRX should have been on Lambda (maybe) - but Escalade should not.
Igor
Someone clue me in - with the new SRX and Escalade on Theta and Lambda - what is the difference between Buick and Cadillac again?
SRX should have been on Lambda (maybe) - but Escalade should not.
Igor
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What's the difference between Flex and MKT again?
MKT = Enclave
Why does GM need Encllave AND Escalade?
For years Wagoner and Lutz said that Buick will go after Lexus with FWD cars and Cadillac after BMW with RWD cars .. now Cadillac is going FWD - so what is the point of Buick?
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The Escalade is probably the only T900 truck that probably needs to be on a car based chassis.
I would have prefered to see it on a high performance RWD chassis...pretty much to make a Mercedes G Class but better.
I would have prefered to see it on a high performance RWD chassis...pretty much to make a Mercedes G Class but better.
No one really had a problem with a Tahoe with a Cadillac badge....
Saturn Outlook eliminated becomes Cadillac Escalade
Saturn Aura eliminated becomes Buick Skylark
Saturn Astra eliminated becomes Chevy Bel Air
Saturn Vue eliminated becomes Buick Rendezvous
Saturn Sky eliminated becomes Buick Bengal
There, I've solved some GM problems.
Saturn Aura eliminated becomes Buick Skylark
Saturn Astra eliminated becomes Chevy Bel Air
Saturn Vue eliminated becomes Buick Rendezvous
Saturn Sky eliminated becomes Buick Bengal
There, I've solved some GM problems.
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What a great idea! Take a vehicle that sells great, and completely change it into something completely different! That's sure to make all of your loyal customers happy. LOL! Everybody knows that all those rich people buying $60,000+ cars think that Fuel economy is the most thing for a luxury vehicle to have. (end of sarcasm)
GM up to its same old bag of tricks!
GM up to its same old bag of tricks!
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I think if this actually comes to fruitition, the Cadillac Lambda will be AWD, not FWD (that way they can demand premium pricing), and with the Outlook disappearing by 2012, this 'Esca-maybe' will be fine. Considering how the Cadillac is used - don't see them around Moab or Death Valley, do ya? - AWD/unibody will be fine. The Escalade is nothing more than a very large sedan for 99% of the owners, so putting it on the Lambda platform won't matter.
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So why did you re-register to come back to this site again? Do you anything positive to say about GM, ever? If your only advice for GM is to go out of business, just go to TTAC.
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VCDJ? Is that you again? Who left the door open?
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He reregistered because his main account is level 1 which locks him out of posting in the news story threads. So he got around it by creating another account.
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The current Escalade ranks right with the Navigator and Excursion as the most oversized, overrated, needlessly gargantuan trucks ever created for consumers. Now that the oversized SUV craze seems to be thankfully comming to a close, it's about time the 'Slade gets downsized and redevelped as a more civilized vehicle.
There is absolutely no need, not even for millionaire athletes and rappers, to have these kinds of land yacts in production. They are ugly, obese, hog the road, and suck gas worse than any car from the 1960's.
If GM puts it on the Lambda platform, I think it's a very good move, and I hope they do it.
There is absolutely no need, not even for millionaire athletes and rappers, to have these kinds of land yacts in production. They are ugly, obese, hog the road, and suck gas worse than any car from the 1960's.
If GM puts it on the Lambda platform, I think it's a very good move, and I hope they do it.
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