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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

I think the people who need the most convincing about the Malibu's demand are those people who work for GM. I wish GM could have better predicted the demand for the Malibu, especially since they claimed it was such an important vehicle. Sure, some will say that it's good to starve dealerships of products, as if the only other alternative is flooding them with product. But GM has managed the launch of other important products-the great new CTS comes to mind-much better.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

Interesting, I hope the sun also rises tomorrow.

The Ford mpg averages were wrong, they are a bit higher.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

If I were in the market for any of the mentioned cars, 1 mpg would not sway my decision...5-10 mpg very well might, however. However, I see the point...GM can advertise the Malibu as being more efficient than the Accord or Camry, even if the difference is miniscule.

You would think that with less HP and an extra gear in it's automatic, the Malibu would get better mpg than the Sonata...guess I'll have to look at the specs a little closer to see what gets the Sonata to equal the Malibu.

That being said, I really like what Hyundai has done to the '09 Sonata...but if I were going to buy one, I'd wait a year and pick one up for about 1/2 of the MSRP.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

could be possible then we imagine one day reading a future issue of C&D the following after a comparaison test: "Accord falled from its pedestal, its throne is conquered by the Malibu"? ;)
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

I've been car hunting. Looked at the Malibu. Looked at the Focus, just for the heck of it. Both the Camry and Accord are butt-ugly and expensive. Yesterday, I checked out a 2009 Sonata Limited. Every option including nav. for 26k plus a $1500 rebate. The interior is far better than even the Malibu with it's hard plastic armrests. All said, the Sonata comes up almost 3k less than an equally equipped Malibu.

And don't even ask me about the only Prius around here - used at the Toyota dealer with almost 10k miles, bland color, and a near 30k sticker on it. Thanks but no thanks.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

That's great! I hope they advertise it to have the best gas milage of any mid-sized car!
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

If I were in the market for any of the mentioned cars, 1 mpg would not sway my decision...5-10 mpg very well might, however. However, I see the point...GM can advertise the Malibu as being more efficient than the Accord or Camry, even if the difference is miniscule.
I agree with you, but not to such an extreme degree. 1mpg would probably not affect my decision unless I considered everything else to be equal, which almost never happens with cars from different manufacturers. It would not take 5-10 mpg to make a difference to me though. 2-3 mpg would be significant enough to be a factor in vehicle choice. With a 15-20 gallon tank, that extra 2-3mpg would equal an extra 30-60 miles of free driving for each fill up versus the competition. At 5-10 mpg superior, I would be hard pressed not to choose that vehicle unless there were significant drawbacks like a 10+ second 0-60 time with the competition being much more lively, or something similar.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

This is indeed good news for the new Chevy Malibu. GM needs to advertise this. Hopefully this will further boost the Malibu's sales.
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

Nice trick, GM. You didn't even build this version at the beginning and now you slap a slug on the road and proclaim gas mileage!

Wonder why you didn't offer this initially? Once again, the finger in the wind managers at GM don't innovate - they react and follow. What would have been really remarkable is if the Malibu had managed to be more efficient than the Coblah. What might have even been more impressive is a six speed manual and a truly efficient 4-cylinder instead of that boat anchor GM is stuffing in the Malibu.

Quite frankly the Detroit reaction to the high gas prices is nothing different than in the 1970's when Detroit started tossing out content in their vehicles, slapping sluggish 4-cylinders with gearing designed for fuel economy and naming them MPG (Ford Models) and whatever GM designated theirs as. Chrysler did something similar in the 1980's with the America series.

What remains to be seen is whether Ford and GM can introduce vehicles that are efficient at weight and designed for both fuel economy and safety. I see no evidence yet that either company can build a truly fuel efficient vehicle that incorporates all the weight from the mandated safety equipment.
 

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i have to laugh when i hear people who smoke a pack a day complain about gasoline prices.
 

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i have to laugh when i hear people who smoke a pack a day complain about gasoline prices.
How is that funny? (No, I don't smoke). That's like saying I laugh at people sipping coffee at Starbucks complain about gasoline prices.... Or laugh at people inside Trader Joe's complain about gasoline prices....

A pack a day is $35/week tops... I pay $240/week for gas....
 

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Re: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu More Fuel-Efficient than Toyota Camry and Honda Accord - Ca

I think the people who need the most convincing about the Malibu's demand are those people who work for GM. I wish GM could have better predicted the demand for the Malibu, especially since they claimed it was such an important vehicle. Sure, some will say that it's good to starve dealerships of products, as if the only other alternative is flooding them with product. But GM has managed the launch of other important products-the great new CTS comes to mind-much better.
It is a fine line between a short supply vehicle with small rebates and a car you can't sell without large rebates. I'm sure GM was praying like crazy that it would sell well, but even the best car can potentially fail due to fickle customers.
 

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Yeah,
um,
I'm not impressed by this.

What about the 6-cylinder side of things?
I want my power and economy too.
Is GM on top in that regard?
No?
Well, let's get it done.
Yesterday would be good.

Where's my extremely fuel-efficient hybrid?
What? We only have mild hybrids? No two-modes? No BAS+?
No?
<repeat chorus here>
Yesterday would be good.
 

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How is that funny? (No, I don't smoke). That's like saying I laugh at people sipping coffee at Starbucks complain about gasoline prices.... Or laugh at people inside Trader Joe's complain about gasoline prices....

A pack a day is $35/week tops... I pay $240/week for gas....
you must have a good paying job
 

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Yeah,
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I'm not impressed by this.

What about the 6-cylinder side of things?
I want my power and economy too.
Is GM on top in that regard?
No?
Well, let's get it done.
Yesterday would be good.

Where's my extremely fuel-efficient hybrid?
What? We only have mild hybrids? No two-modes? No BAS+?
No?
<repeat chorus here>
Yesterday would be good.
Mileage on the 3.6L is not great. I wish they could get that up to 20/28 at least.
 

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How is that funny? (No, I don't smoke). That's like saying I laugh at people sipping coffee at Starbucks complain about gasoline prices.... Or laugh at people inside Trader Joe's complain about gasoline prices....

A pack a day is $35/week tops... I pay $240/week for gas....
$240/week is way outside of most driver's gasoline needs. That will get you 900 miles at $4/gallon in a vehicle that gets 15mpg. (46,800 miles per year). The average person just doesn't buy that much on gas.
 
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