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Knowing that Pontiac is going to redesign the GTO in 2007, I have done the following concept. It obviously makes liberal use of the G6 concept, but this is my idea of the next level for the GTO. I feel the body of the production G6 and the concept G6 are different enough that the concept version could be used on another coupe design.
 

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I think what's under the hood is the primary difference, don't you? Besides, the body of the production G6 varies enough, in my opinion anyway, that enough people would see these as different cars. I see your point, but it raises the question of why even have the GTO in the first place? And remember that the original GTO's were based on existing cars even when they swtiched from an option package to a seperate nameplate.

btw, if anyone wants a full list of what I did just ask.
 

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Any suggestions on how to make it stand on its own? I guess the main thing would be to do a complete redesign of the twin ports, which I almost did. But I wanted to see how a black grill would look. I'm going to tackle the lights when I get up enough strength. lol. I hate doing headlights from scratch.

Thanks for the chop compliments though.

EDIT: I have since added a "shoulder" over the rear quarter that has a slight V indentation on the side. I think it looks pretty sharp. I also added some new hood lines that taper down to a point just below the arrowhead.
 

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Some good suggestions/points. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to lower the hood to make the fenders stand out a little. I don't want to just chop in another front end. I prefer to do the work myself. But it's a pretty big task. I'll see what I can do and report back when I have something new.
 

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Glad you all like it. It was fun to do. And every altered piece, other than the wheels, was done by hand. The G6 concept was a great donor and the silver color was suprisingly easy to work with. I really did want to try the suggestion of bringing the hood and front clip down a little causing the fenders to remain higher. I am still willing to try it, but it will take a lot longer to work out.

Do you think the lower front is ok or is it too boring?
 

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Originally posted by Rex Raider@Jul 9 2004, 04:28 PM
Not bad.

But the G6 is going to have a coupe next year.  So, I think they'd overlap.
lmao. You know it just occured to me that your winning Banshee design appears to be based largely on the G6 concept. I know the Banshee was a concept, but it does strike me as funny that you say my GTO concept would overlap the G6 coupe. :)

I hope my design has evolved enough to change your opinion about the potential conflict.
 

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I thought I saw some of the sheet metal carried over from the G6. My mistake.
I did lengthen this one to give it more V8 worthy dimensions. I just think the original G6 concept was such a great design that not much needed to be altered to make it work for what I wanted to accomplish.
 

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I don't think the Grand Am/GTO comparison is such a bad thing. Hell, we almost could've had a GTO out of the latest Grand Am. It was thought that the SC/T was a vision of the new GTO. Personally, I would've loved it. Besides, when you think about the GTO lineage, it makes sense to bring up the Grand Am.
Tempest --> GTO
Tempest --> Grand Am

But I know what you're getting at. And no, I don't particularly like the 2004 GTO. However, you might see the problem here. The current car draws comparisons to the Grand Am due to its shape and size. Well if you go a little bigger then you end up with people comparing it to a Grand Prix. That is, of course, unless you make it such a wildly different design that it can't possibly look like anything in the current Pontiac line up. Ah! But then you start getting hordes of traditionalists that say it's awful and too futuristic, which in their eyes is ugly.


And I still think you are nuts if you think the production G6 looks like the concept model. The only, and I mean ONLY things they truly share are the headlamp and tail light designs. That's it. Few other things are more or less inspired by the concept, such as the general look of the lower front. When is the last time you saw them side-by-side? I spent the last week looking at them. I think the only reason my design is being faulted on the basis of it looking "too much like the G6" is only because Pontiac decided to carry the name over to the production model. If they had renamed the G6 to the Grand Am for production I don't think you would care that it was derived from a concept model.

By the way, would it help if I slapped scoops and a tachometer on the hood? Because I've done that to the existing GTO and people said it was unnecessary and too much "retro". So let me see if I have this straight.
  • You can't have it resemble a stable mate
  • It can't be too sedate, yet it can't be too wild
  • And it can't have anything retro in the styling.
 

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I started thinking the rear end needed a little more work. Widen the fenders, maybe make the tail a bit llonger, make the fenders come up higher. Things to make it stand even more apart from the G6. Personally I like it, but I am willing to try out some new things.
 

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Originally posted by casket_demon@Aug 5 2004, 04:33 AM
I don't think the GTO rep'ed in this thread is a good start 4 the 2007 model. Shows little imagination and once again just like the current GTO it's not aggresive enough. I glad that some of U guys who sit here and bad GM 4 what the put out  don't work 4 GM because some of the thing that R put out there......YEEESH  :flush:
What are you talking about? It shows more imagination than what's rotting in the showroom currently, that's for sure. And I have three questions for you:

1) Why don't you check out my newer zeta based GTO instead?
2) Did you see me "bad mouthing" GM? And I'll just bet you never have.
3) Where the hell are your concepts?
 
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