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The engine speed does not appear to be changing and I hold the speed steady at 40 or 45 mph and the tach is bouncing up and down 1200 to 1600 rpms. It appears to do at this at 60 mph as well.

If I put the car in 3rd gear at 40 mph, the tach is steady @ 2,000 rpms.

Sometimes when slowing down >20 mph the transmission seems to "have a hestitation jerk" coming out of overdrive. Is this normal? Does not appear to happen but once a week or two. If I take it to the dealer they will say cannot replicate the problem.

It is an 06 Monte Carlo LS with a 3.5 with 10,000 miles.

Anyone else seen this? The tach seems fine at speeds below 40 mph, but I do not notice this behavior all the time above 40 mph.

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How to diagnose? Issue with the TCC?

I do not have a check engine light on.

Found this through some research on the trans:

http://www.tripleedgeperformance.com/4T65E_Transmission_Info.php


Tach bounces up and down a few hundered rpm while cruising in lockup:
Another common problem / concern of this transmission and more pronounced with added engine power or higher mileage. This generally happens when the valve body has excess wear in the TCC valve area. Excessive fluid leakage in this area of the valve body causes TCC apply pressure loss and can lead to uncontrollable TCC operation which causes the engine rpm to bounce up and down a bit. This problem is noticed most after driving a while and speeds between 42 and 70mph and in 4th gear. There are other causes to this problem that can be from worn or shrunken teflon seals on the input shaft, a bad o-ring on the input shaft that seals in the torque converter, a faulty torque converter clutch, and even a bad pressure control solenoid. Another common occurance is a worn out sleeve in the channel plate that supports the input shaft. When this sleeve wears the input shaft will get chewed up where the sealing rings are and cause problems. Commonly code P0741 will be found in the pcm memory as a stored code and is described as Torque Converter Clutch Stuck Off. When this happens adaptives shifts are disabled, TCC operation is disabled, and 4th gear can be disabled. Generally a new or reman / repaired valve body will correct this condition and a new EPC solenoid is always suggested as well. The TCC/PWM solenoid is rarely ever at fault and I am yet to find one bad. Again the valve body is the common cure BUT not always the culprit and certainly not the whole problem after this has been happening for a while. Any time a torque converter fails there will be debris going back into the trans. There is a pressure relief valve in the channel plate that will collect debris from a bad torque converter and reduce cooler flow, cause trans to run hot, and greatly effect TCC operation and can destroy a new converter in a matter of miles if this isnt carefully inspected or upgraded. The best way to verify proper operation as commanded by the pcm is with a scan tool by viewing TCC slippage rpm, TCC duty cycle, EPC data, and checking any codes and making sure the engine is running properly and a misfire is not a false sense of a torque converter problem or shudder.
 
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