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What's the Best Midsize Sedan for 2016?

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By Patrick Olsen
June 6, 2016

Midsize sedans are the automotive equivalent of the refrigerator: They are appliances, and you need yours to work well, and work reliably. If you want one in avocado green, you can get that, but being successful at its mission is the top priority. This is the best-selling car segment in the U.S., and the competitors are better than ever. Our judges, and our family, valued features and drivability over flash and sizzle.

2016 Midsize Sedan Challenge
Results | Mileage Test | Device Charging Challenge Video

We arrived at this group of midsize sedans by taking the top three cars from our 2014 Midsize Sedan Challenge; we then added models with significant redesigns or refreshes along with the segment sales leader. To be included, cars had to have automatic transmissions, get an EPA-estimated rating of 28 mpg combined and cost $28,000 or less.

The contenders:

2016 Hyundai Sonata (our 2014 champion)

2016 Subaru Legacy (2014 runner-up)

2016 Volkswagen Passat (2014 third-place finisher)

2016 Chevrolet Malibu (redesigned)

2016 Honda Accord (redesigned)

2016 Kia Optima (redesigned)

2016 Mazda6 (refreshed)

2016 Nissan Altima (redesigned)

2016 Toyota Camry (segment sales leader)

We put those cars through a week's worth of testing:

We drove them on a 220-mile real-world mileage course in and around Atlanta.
We had our judges drive them back-to-back-to-back on the same pavement to evaluate ride, handling, comfort, acceleration and more.
We brought in an in-market couple to test the cars for ride, handling, acceleration and more.

From all of the points we awarded in those tests, we found our winner. Our judges were:

Aaron Bragman, Cars.com Detroit bureau chief
Jennifer Geiger, Cars.com assistant managing editor, news
Fred Meier, Cars.com Washington, D.C., bureau chief
Brian Robinson, PBS' "MotorWeek" producer
Katie and Ryan Small, our in-market shoppers. Katie is an opera singer, and Ryan is an auditor. They live near Atlanta, and both drive Honda Pilots, one a
2003 and one a 2006, so they're looking to update their fleet and find a car that gets better mileage.



Pretty good showing by the new 'bu.

Take into account that the Cars.com/Motorweek comparison tests tend to be one more geared to non-enthusiast buyers who are looking at the entire package w/o an emphasis on handling.
 
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The Passat is a box on a bowl of jello. Very spacious, completely lacking in spirit. I took one from Phoenix to Las Vegas and it was a total snoozefest. The seat bottoms were intrusively narrow, almost as narrow as my Miata, unfitting for a large car. Why make such a large, commodious car and give it Jetta seats?

I think the Malibu, Accord, and 6 should have ranked much higher.

Nice to see the Camry's cleaner, sharper styling. Otherwise... blech.
 
#21 ·
Jetta seats - yeah, they were right there in the parts bin, so we took 'em.

I've got a similar problem in a big, spendy Audi A8: the sun visors are tiny. Straight out of a VW Polo, I think. Big gap at the A-pillar, and an even bigger one at the B-pillar. This might not be a big deal, except I have that car in Phoenix, and I'm constantly contorting my neck to avoid blinding sunlight.
 
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Fail.

Not even a nod towards Safety.

Only Proven contenders are via highly useful info @ InformedForLife ;

2016 CHEVROLET MALIBU LIMITED 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #32 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 4 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3583 0.86 1 POOR

2016 NISSAN MAXIMA 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #33 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 5 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3479 0.89 5 ACCEPTABLE

2016 SUBARU LEGACY 4 DR AWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #34 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 5 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3455 0.90 6 MARGINAL


2016 CHRYSLER 200 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #36 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 4 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3447 0.91 5 MARGINAL

2016 HYUNDAI SONATA HYBRID 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #37 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 4 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3285 0.97 ? POOR

2016 KIA OPTIMA HYBRID 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #38 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 5 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3285 0.97 ? POOR

2016 HYUNDAI SONATA 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #39 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 4 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3285 0.97 6 POOR

2016 KIA OPTIMA 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #40 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 5 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3285 0.97 6 POOR

2016 MAZDA MAZDA6 4 DR FWD Meets SAFEST criteria (ranks #42 out of 754 vehicles for 2016) 5 5 5 4 GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD CAR 3217 0.99 6 ACCEPTABLE

http://informedforlife.org/

The new Malibu is in a TBD status awaiting NHTSA / IIHS results.

And perhaps...... one or two others.

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2012 / 2015 Passat made this list @ one time but did get pushed off by some non Car Product in later 2015..... However, it can still be considered fully competitive minus a trifle even now in the Mid Size Sedan Category.

And way ahead of the new 2016 Passat.

As can the Dodge Darts.

There may be a lag factor in some of Informed for Life's 'current' reporting for additional Product.
 
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Not even a nod towards Safety.
It is odd that the clear safety champion among these sedans, Subaru Legacy, only ranked fifth overall in this comparison test. IMO, it deserves a much higher score and rank.
 
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I'm in the "all cars are safe enough" camp. I think that anything you buy these days is safe. Sure, there are differences. If you worry about safety to that degree, you'll probably die of hypertension.

It's the same for me with quality. Quality defined as reliability: "will the car break down, strand me". Not quality defined as what cars have the best leather, the best handling, etc. All cars today are reliable.
 
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I drove one a few months ago and legit thought there was a problem with the engine from the noise it was making.
Was it a 1.8T? If you found it unusually noisy, there probably was something wrong with it. The EA888 1.8L engine is ordinarily very smooth, refined, and quiet.
 
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The MY 2017 refresh? It's already available. Here's a '17 Fusion SE at Mike Raisor Ford in Lafayette, Indiana:

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LOL. I like the start-stop. I don't like that I can't turn it off. I barely notice the stop-start. It turns the AC off when it's on "stop."

OK, I guess we can agree this ain't Car and Driver. :fall:
 
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My hunch is that Ford didn't have a 2017 Fusion available in its press fleet when Cars.com/MotorWeek conducted its test in the Atlanta area.

FWIW, the last time Cars.com/Motorweek did a midsize sedan comparison test (November 2014, using MY 2015 cars), Fusion ranked sixth, just behind Malibu.

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Yep.

Even think that's a cup they do not really 'want' - its more about what the OEMs can get away with - for a given price point.

Just opinion and nothing more .... but in this Class of product seems .....some seriously important things have in fact been truly lost or rolled backwards for at least the upper half whatever that meant or means today.

1. ) Steering 'Feel'.
 
#28 ·
I just bought an Autumn Bronze 2016 Malibu LT last month. I think it's a great car so far. I got the sun and wheels package, and it's got the loft brown leather/atmosphere interior. For an LT it's pretty loaded. I could see why they would complain about the fabric on the dash, but with the leather package, instead of cloth it's leather which is the only way I liked the interior. Cloth is just an odd choice for a dashboard, I didn't like it on my brothers 2012 Cruze either. Other than that I can't really complain about the functionality of the car. It rides well, is quiet and quick enough for me. The Bose system is great compared to the base stereo in our Encore (admittedly I'm not well versed in stereo systems). It does go in tomorrow for a couple issues; motorized sun shade quit working so I can't use my sunroof which is a bit upsetting. I don't know if it's off track or if the electronics shorted out, but either way it won't open. Also, there's a rattle coming from the footwell that is about to drive me crazy, I've pinpointed it to the emergency brake, hopefully they can remedy that. But so far I'm really happy. The 18" wheels that come on the LT sun and wheels package look great and I get compliments on the car from people quite a bit.
 
#29 ·
Maybe that's my sister's car color too, autumn brown. Very sharp. They got a premium edition with the more powerful engine.

Not as sleek as the Mazda 6, but a really nice car.
 
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In the scoring, Malibu won by good to large margin;

1. ) Tech and Entertainment

2. ) Ride

3. ) Noise

And .....

4. ) Child Safety Seats. Which was a three way tie with the two from HK.
 
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Passat? Pssst. Good grief, why would ANYONE want something so frigging boring? And CamCords are at best midpack which shows how much perception and past history play a part in decision making. I swear you could put a Camry badge on a Yugo and they would still fly out the door. The sheeple effect is alive and well. These shoppers are not looking for value and worthiness. They are looking for badge recognition, thinking the neighbors will affirm the sound wisdom of their sensible purchase.
 
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Cloth on the dash: "I hope wall-to-wall carpeting is not the next trend in auto interiors," Geiger said, and she wasn't alone. "That big swath of upholstery cloth wrapping the dash contours is a question mark for durability and cleaning," Meier said. "I like the fact that they are trying something different," Robinson said, "but this doesn't really work for me." "I'd be worried about the fabric on the dash," Katie said. "I can't wipe it clean."

Odd design choices: Beyond being described as "polarizing" by several of the judges, "the quirky interior is missing things: height-adjustable seat belts, a trunk release lever, a max air conditioning button," Bragman said. "These are common things made notable by their absence." Robinson bemoaned the "awkward placement of the start button."

Stop. Start. Stop. The biggest praise for the auto stop-start came from Meier: "I barely noticed it - but you should be able to turn it off." Bragman offered a good reason for that: "There's no way to shut off the stop-start and, as a result, it kills the air conditioning while you're sitting at a stoplight. That's very annoying in hot, humid Atlanta."

And there you have it-all the things I criticized about the car.
Now, what will GM do about it? Absolutely nothing as usual
 
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The new Malibu is a great car but has many annoying GM strings attached. Not only are the above things a bit off putting but it also loses some badly needed interior storage including a place to put your glasses/sunglasses, it also lost the very handy hidden storage behind the touch screen along with the pull out drawer to the left of the steering wheel.

The way Chevy packages these cars is very annoying as well. Why is there both an L and LS with no options being offered other than color etc? Just make the L and give it a simple option package with the alloys wheels and touch screen. Dropping the 2LT trim level was also a mistake as it gave customers another option to get into a peppier 2.0T engine without the stop start feature without having to spend well over 30K. Now for 2017 the only way to get a 2.0t is the most expensive Premier trim level which will be over 30K for starting price. Meanwhile you can get virtually any competitor with a more powerful engine save Mazda in a lower trim level car in the mid to upper 20's.

About that cloth on the dash. Well if you can't wipe it clean there what do they think people are going to do about the seats themselves? That harsh fake cloth they use on these new cars absorbs stains and dirt like a sponge and cleaning those stains out is super difficult in most cases. Tan and light gray are the worst. We see many late model cars with this fake cloth in tan and light gray go through auctions with irremovable stains and marks all the time. The soft cloth in my 2013 Impala is 10 times easier to clean and keep clean even in light gray.

It would also be really nice if the Malibu had something features wise that its competition lacked like a fold flat passenger seat, a chilled glovebox, power pedals or a rear seat armrest with flip open storage. Note that the older generation Malibu from 2004 on the Epsilon body offered the power pedals, fold flat passenger seat and the 2013-2016 Malibu/Limited models had the rear storage armrest with cup holders along with the above missing items.

The new Malibu is a great car and a very solid effort on GM's part. The above is a few things that could make it even better and GM would be wise to keep things fresh and at least consider making the following changes/adjustments in upcoming model years:

1) Make the 2.0T available on the LT model or offer a Sport package for that same trim that includes the 250 Hp engine, tire upgrade, firmer suspension etc
2) Change the silly fabric trim on the dash to soft touch vinyl as in the upper leather trimmed cars.
3) Stop the GM mentality with the stop/start and offer a defeat feature like most everybody else does
4) Lose either the L or LS trim levels and just have one cheap entry car with an option package for those that want the screen and wheel upgrade
5) Put in an upper sun glasses holder like every competitor does
6) Make the seat belts height adjustable ( I can't believe this was omitted)
7) Offer at least one thing the competition doesn't have from the above list and advertise the hell out of it
8) Did I mention advertise the hell out of it. Advertise advertise advertise!!!
 
#37 ·
I had a 2015 Passat Wolfsburg as a rental when my Fusion was in the shop for repairs.

As bland as that thing was, I freaking loved it. The car was a great highway cruiser and it felt very planted in the corners. And the turbo made the car feel so much faster than it was, and this was an economy engine, not an uplevel engine. I never felt down on power while my Fusion can feel breathless at times.

I did not love the interior, however. But I was shocked at how much I liked that car. Absolutely shocked. I was expecting to hate it.
 
#39 ·
I had a 2015 Passat Wolfsburg as a rental when my Fusion was in the shop for repairs.

As bland as that thing was, I freaking loved it. The car was a great highway cruiser and it felt very planted in the corners. And the turbo made the car feel so much faster than it was, and this was an economy engine, not an uplevel engine. I never felt down on power while my Fusion can feel breathless at times.
I found it to be absolutely terrible in corners unless they improved the suspension significantly for 2015. Sloppiest modern car I've ever driven. Perhaps the one you drove, being a Wolfsburg turbo, had a less marshmallowy suspension.
 
#40 ·
I fail to see why anyone would buy a Volkswagen at all, let alone a Passat. But man, all these cars suck. I've driven a midsize sedan for long enough now where I'm utterly sick of the midsizeness of it. On one hand, 95% of the time I'm hauling around tons of dead weight (The 1st gen Epsilons were pigs which makes it worse), but when I have rear seat passengers its not quite enough space. Meh. If I'm going to buy a sedan again, it will be a Cruze or Impala.
 
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Do not care in the slightest for IIHS data alone - in a vacuum.

As handled by Informed For Life first, and myself second after that - fine.


Accord, Altima, Camry and Passat are dropped implicitly in that post - as per that part you clipped, for their lack in some cases serious lack, with the NHTSA regime.

Besides, want Informed For Life to do their now weaker but still important thing with the meld - and then take the final lookie see over here.

To each his own.
 
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Part of the need..... part of that discussion for something like what Informed For Life provides is covered here.

Old - but still very relevant.


Quote :

NHTSA and IIHS Fail to Identify the Most Safe Vehicles




Vehicle crash tests measure crashworthiness—the ability of a vehicle to protect the occupants during impact with a stationary barrier, such as a bridge abutment. A vehicle's weight is not indicative of its crashworthiness—some small, light-weight vehicles have excellent crashworthiness, while many large SUVs and pick-up trucks do not. However, when two vehicles collide head-on the relative weight of your vehicle compared with your opponent's vehicle determines the severity of forces you experience. Since 60% of traffic accidents involve multiple vehicles you must consider both crashworthiness and size/weight to identify a safe vehicle.



There are two agencies that perform crash testing for rating the crashworthiness of vehicles sold in the United States: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)—an agency within the U.S. Department of Transportation, and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS)—an organization created and funded by approximately one hundred automobile insurance companies. Crash tests performed by each agency use different protocols and their results complement each other, which is why the agencies only agree about half the time as to which vehicles have the best crashworthiness. You must review ratings posted by both agencies to evaluate the crashworthiness of any vehicle.



Next, you need to interpret the ratings. This is not as easy as it may first appear considering that the majority of vehicles (60% of all 2011-2016 vehicles) are rated “Top Pick” by IIHS; 45% are rated “5-Stars Overall” by NHTSA. However, of approximately 1800 vehicles with sufficient data for evaluation, only 14% are both “Top Pick” and “5-Stars Overall”. You may be surprised to learn that many of these "Safe" vehicles do not rate in the top quartile in some individual crash modes. Specifically, NHTSA designates some vehicles as "5-Stars Overall" despite receiving only "4-Stars" in side impact and/or in frontal impact. Also, IIHS designates some pre-2014 vehicles as “Top Pick”, despite receiving “Poor” or “Marginal” ratings in the small-overlap frontal test. As a general rule-of-thumb your risk of serious injury/death increases 30%-50% when going from either agency's best rating category to their 2nd best, i.e., 5-stars-to-4-stars, or Good-to-Acceptable.



After you cull from the safest 14% list those vehicles with ratings below the top quartile in one or more individual crash mode, the resulting short list consists of approximately 5% of vehicles, all with top-quartile crashworthiness ratings in every crash mode. Included within this 5% list however are light-weight vehicles that need to be removed from consideration. Although both agencies warn the consumer to avoid light-weight vehicles their ratings data are presented without factoring in this important consideration. Separately, IIHS publishes data showing the dramatic correlation between vehicle weight and fatalities in multi-vehicle accidents. For example, these data show that drivers were twice as likely to die in a 2,500 lb. car as in a 4,000 lb. car; 4x as likely as in a 4,500 lb. SUV. These data enable you to compare fatality rates of vehicles based solely on class/weight, and as a practical matter you can avoid vehicles that have an inherent disadvantage compared with the average vehicle you are likely to collide with, such as an average weight (3,200 lb.) passenger car.



Once you remove vehicles whose class/weight have a higher driver fatality rate than the average weight passenger car, the 4% list is reduced to only 2% of vehicles. These 2% are the only vehicles judged to be “safest”.



I created this website to enable consumers to easily identify the safest vehicles.


by Mike Dulberger, Founder, Informed For Life



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http://informedforlife.org/viewartcl.php?index=131

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There is a lot more to it and IFL also covers some of that elsewhere on the site.

Part of that would include that IFL closes the gap as best possible and in decent usable fashion, given the data limitations between real world result and the ratings where both IIHS and NHTSA both far more than struggle.

Another fail with NHTSA and IIHS - touched on above but well worth a more detailed look is that the rating systems ( as opposed to the physical testing which is a seperate consideration and topic ) - how scores and Stars and groupings are assigned have at least several shortcomings.

1. ) Too easy to get a 'good' net score of some kind because windows for each star rating as an example, are far too broad.

2. ) This leads to the next rating informational fail both provide ie lack of relative discernment.


So in sum, much harder and ultimately less complete in terms of allowing those interested in discerning more finely between the the so so s and the top.

One thing for certain.

Nobody would accept all these shorts including the ones not mentioned here....... which is often the bulk of it - with regard to road performance ratings and MPGs etc and soon..... with regard to EM.

IFL does a real service including by the already mentioned relating of scores to real world result. But even there and because of the inherent shorts @ NHTSA and IIHS - that could be improved as well and would be if the other two got up and really did something more useful. They also deserve a big shout out for bringing the two Testing Regimes and resulting Data sets together into something very usable which is something both IIHS and NHTSA have been steadfast in ignoring / preventing over the course of their often frosty, and sometimes outright antagonistic relationship.
 
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#48 ·
^^ Thanks, America. Coolness. :cool:
 
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Understand your earlier and earlier concerns which were in fact well placed..... this whole 'area' is loaded with less than what we all ( self included ) end up naturally assuming.

Somewhere somebody had - besides IFL, and @ least one well ahead of IFL's creation - a great Paper or two on how many of the tests ( back when ) were not predictive in a statistically acceptable way to Real World Results - and when they were, rarely in the way expected.

Now that is a really really complicated and still controversial area - and really messy because the basic accident data is so far from less than ideal that a bunch of ranging and modeling has to essentially take it's place. Others did and still do feel differently about it.

Anyway....

Weight was of great worth and also some stuff with at least some of the Frontal was somehow useful as well.

Helped push more than a few improvements with all this along so what we have today is better but still.... far short of what could realistically and easily be.

Part of that reluctance is .... about many things starting with.... MPGs if you follow.

( The fear is along the lines that everybody or too many would want a Suburban and not a Prius etc .... if they really knew the truth.... )

Also helped push IIHS along who still has an ( often ) strong tendency to gravitate towards what's best for the Insurance Industry... including and especially for the 95 % of the House that is on the 'otherside' of the biz ie Investment Portfolio Management optimisation. Remember too, they had a terrible start with their stuff - until MB 'helped' them straighten it out .......

So.... we all must make do with what we have available as imperfect as it all is and while IFL does not solve all that ( they can't ) they do move the Ball forward a good and useful amount.

Still have to crosscheck some stuff though and again, especially but not exclusively so, if you go off the Winner list.

Also that is a rolling list so ( good ) stuff ( imo ) gets pushed off that may still be highly relevant in a particular Class of Product.

Or to and for your own interest - as you yourself define it.

NHTSA as they have already announced, will be bringin' some semi serious augmentation and revisions fairly soon to theirs ..... but do not seem to have gone after it all in terms of spreading it for discernment.

I'm not really after what the stanadrds and tests should be with all this - more about making a better presentation - a more usable one of what we already have.

Speaking of which, both NHTSA and IIHS need to do some of the sacred cows that never get tested because of cost and sales volumes etc.

That's long over due as well.

Really..... why do we not have some sort of minimum data set on any and everything on sale ?

See, this is one of the areas where the feuding between NHTSA and IIHS has been harmful - via a lot of waste.

Why not get serious and fully harmonize to a large degree anyway - and get them all essentially.
 
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#51 ·
I see these cars and would only lease the least expensive from www.legendleasing.com

These are mostly throw away vehicles in my opinion...

I see these four door sedans as basic transportation and the key feature of all these vehicles is lowest cost. They are all competent enough to be considered good.

I guess if I were purchasing I'd lean towards the best performing version but why? I'd rather lease these as the lowest cost version and just buy a sports car for fun.

Honda has pretty impressive lease deals of around 600 bank fee and low 200 a month for 36 months...

Just pick the color and have it delivered without ever having to go to a dealer.

If there was one less than the Honda I'd get that.

Save the money for the sports car...

Jmo
 
#54 ·
I am not arguing against standardized testing. Where did you get that, I never said anything like that.

Anyway, this discussion is pointless, I'm done with you. You don't even understand what reputation means.