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    USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Range Fuels is building the first one in Georgia.

    Mascoma Corp. is building the second one in Michigan.

    Abengoa Bioenergy is building America's third cellulosic ethanol plant in Kansas.

    Lignol applies to build America's fourth cellulosic ethanol plant in Colorado

    Florida Crystals Corp. is bulding America's fifth cellulosic ethanol plant in Florida

    Mascoma is building America's sixth cellulosic ethanol plant in Tennessee

    UT Board Approves Biofuels Business Partnership

    KNOXVILLE - The executive committee of the University of Tennessee Board of Trustees today approved a business partnership between the university and cellulosic biofuels pioneer Mascoma Corporation to establish Tennessee as a biofuels industry leader.

    The University of Tennessee and Mascoma plan to jointly build and operate a 5 million gallon per year cellulosic ethanol biorefinery in Monroe County.
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    We need to get some of that action in Texas.
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    Re: USA's Sixth Celulosic Ethanol Plant

    Great news! Hopefully by 2010 we'll be driving Eflex products powered by Ethanol.

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    I love the fact that most pushrod V8's run awesome on ethanol.
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    i love how E-85 will let me run more compression and make more power from my old school muscle car.
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    Ethanol is a joke. It requires to much energy to produce, by the tractors used to harvest the crop, the energy used to turn the crop in to ethanol and then the trucks that need to haul the fuel from the producer to the distributer.

    The only reason it makes sense at all is the US government subsidies that farmers recieve on virtually every crop they produce.

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    Re: USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Quote Originally Posted by johnct2005
    Ethanol is a joke. It requires to much energy to produce, by the tractors used to harvest the crop, the energy used to turn the crop in to ethanol and then the trucks that need to haul the fuel from the producer to the distributer.

    The only reason it makes sense at all is the US government subsidies that farmers recieve on virtually every crop they produce.
    Take your foot and insert it into your mouth, please.

    Cellulosic ethanol plants can produce ethanol from ANYTHING biological. Grass clippings, tree branches, biological waste, paper, TRASH. Anything that can be composted in any way can produce ethanol.

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    Re: USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Quote Originally Posted by johnct2005
    Ethanol is a joke. It requires to much energy to produce, by the tractors used to harvest the crop, the energy used to turn the crop in to ethanol and then the trucks that need to haul the fuel from the producer to the distributer.

    The only reason it makes sense at all is the US government subsidies that farmers recieve on virtually every crop they produce.
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    All of the same "I'm afraid of change" whining that has been a constant, anytime a major change has come about in history. Somehow, everyone who engages in this very type of detracting, gets proven wrong every time.

    Biomass derived fuels are coming - like it or not. They are the best answer to our energy needs at current. I say, instead of cowering in the corner while shouting about how much of a "joke" ethanol is, you get yourself ready for a world that is increasingly using renewable energy sources.
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    Re: USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Quote Originally Posted by johnct2005
    Ethanol is a joke. It requires to much energy to produce, by the tractors used to harvest the crop, the energy used to turn the crop in to ethanol and then the trucks that need to haul the fuel from the producer to the distributer.

    The only reason it makes sense at all is the US government subsidies that farmers recieve on virtually every crop they produce.
    Yes, because it's so much more efficient to pump oil from miles beneath the surface, transport it by ship to a refinery, refine it into gasoline, pump it into storage tanks and transport it by truck to a distributor.

    If we use biomass to make the fuel, clean power to turn it into ethanol and biodiesel in the transport trucks we've cut oil/fossil fuel consumption by a HUGE margin.
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    Re: USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewGS
    Yes, because it's so much more efficient to pump oil from miles beneath the surface, transport it by ship to a refinery, refine it into gasoline, pump it into storage tanks and transport it by truck to a distributor.

    If we use biomass to make the fuel, clean power to turn it into ethanol and biodiesel in the transport trucks we've cut oil/fossil fuel consumption by a HUGE margin.
    Not to tag onto your post but also simplification of the delivery process. A release from foreign oil. Less pollution both by commuters and delivery vehicles. CONTROL OVER PRICE. And best of all, a **** you aimed at the Middle East. And another **** you aimed at Venezuela and that psycho Chavez.

    We need cellulosic technology NOW. The faster we get the ball rolling the faster we can wean ourselves off of the pricks who make money hand over fist while behind closed doors planning ways to murder our civilians and screw with our economy.

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    Re: USA's Sixth Cellulosic Ethanol Plant

    Quote Originally Posted by johnct2005
    Ethanol is a joke. It requires to much energy to produce, by the tractors used to harvest the crop, the energy used to turn the crop in to ethanol and then the trucks that need to haul the fuel from the producer to the distributer.

    The only reason it makes sense at all is the US government subsidies that farmers recieve on virtually every crop they produce.
    I guess that enough people have already kicked you about your first goofy paragraph, so let me at the second one!

    Farmers have been given subsidies on their crops (or even to NOT grow crops) in order to keep their prices higher, so they can be profitable (or more profitable). And this has been going on loooong before these last few years of ethanol production start ups. But if there is more demand for crops (for fuel, for food, for clothing, etc., etc., etc.) then the extra demand drives prices (and profits) up to a level where the subsidies we pay now won't be required.

    In addition, ethanol production continues to get more and more efficient. But gasoline production continues to become less and less efficient, since the easier to access (cheaper) oil gets used up, and we have to rely more on the difficult to access (expensive) oil. Yes, even at $83 a barrel, oil is still a cheap fuel, but it's price will continue to climb, while ethanol's price will continue downward. Which one is the future?

    Besides, I would rather pay some farmers in Iowa $10 a gallon for ethanol, than pay $1 a gallon for gasoline from Iran,Venezuela, etc.
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    Don't feel too bad johnct2005.
    The more we all learn about cellulosic ethanol, the better off we all are and the more we can inform other people about its benefits.

    This is great. It seems like every month, more of these plants are coming on line or are getting ready to be built. Let's start a contest. What state, will be the largest ethanol producer by 2010?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman01
    Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.

    All of the same "I'm afraid of change" whining that has been a constant, anytime a major change has come about in history. Somehow, everyone who engages in this very type of detracting, gets proven wrong every time.

    Biomass derived fuels are coming - like it or not. They are the best answer to our energy needs at current. I say, instead of cowering in the corner while shouting about how much of a "joke" ethanol is, you get yourself ready for a world that is increasingly using renewable energy sources.
    This is more like when Lenin told the Russians communism would be good for them. Just because it is a change doesn't mean it is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewGS
    Yes, because it's so much more efficient to pump oil from miles beneath the surface, transport it by ship to a refinery, refine it into gasoline, pump it into storage tanks and transport it by truck to a distributor.

    If we use biomass to make the fuel, clean power to turn it into ethanol and biodiesel in the transport trucks we've cut oil/fossil fuel consumption by a HUGE margin.
    Not only do the oil companies do all that and make a nice profit they also subsidize the US government to the tune of about 75 Billion a year from taxes and royalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyCamaro83
    Don't feel too bad johnct2005.
    The more we all learn about cellulosic ethanol, the better off we all are and the more we can inform other people about its benefits.

    This is great. It seems like every month, more of these plants are coming on line or are getting ready to be built. Let's start a contest. What state, will be the largest ethanol producer by 2010?
    Iowa because they have the important presidential primary there.

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