GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

  1. Welcome to GM Inside News Forum – General discussion forum for GM

    Welcome to GM Inside News Forum - a website dedicated to all things GM.

    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, Join GM Inside News Forum today!
     
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

  1. #1
    2.4 Liter SIDI ECOTEC
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    356
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    Our senior editor did an in-depth feature on Coskata, the Ethanol producer working with waste. Pretty interesting read if you have some time on your hands.

    http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...g-garbage.html

    Coskata's system, which is currently small in scale, works on a variety of source materials, or feedstocks, including shredded tires or other waste material, as well as cellulose such as wood chips. The feedstock goes into a pressurized tank at a temperature high enough to break it down, releasing gases such as hydrogen and carbon monoxide. What emerges from the gasifier is known as synthesis gas, or syngas. Gasification isn't new; syngas itself can be turned into synthetic petroleum. What's new is Coskata's next step, in which microorganisms in a bioreactor feed on the syngas, and those microorganisms then produce ethanol.

  2. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    6.2 Liter LS3 V8 Premium Member WishIhadatruck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Grand Rapids, MI
    Posts
    3,038
    Thanks
    294
    Thanked 141 Times in 94 Posts
    My Ride
    2014 Cruze Eco MT

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    Wow that sure sounds promising. I hope it works out like they describe.
    Current:
    '96 Buick Roadmaster Wagon
    '14 Cruze Eco Manual
    '03 2500 8.1L Suburban
    Hidden Content Hidden Content Hidden Content

  4. #3
    6.0 Liter L76 V8 jkennedy293's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Holly Springs, NC
    Posts
    2,371
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    It really sounds nice. To be able to fuel vehicles, have no harmful emissions, and remove waste from the landfills, it almost seems like the perfect fuel.

  5. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Premium Member Sal Collaziano's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Posts
    6,925
    Thanks
    314
    Thanked 920 Times in 538 Posts
    My Ride
    RENNtech E63 AMG

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    It would be nice if we could stop using corn, too..

  7. #5
    1.8 Liter ECOTEC
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    34
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    It's like the Delorean in Back To The Future II.

  8. #6
    3.6 Liter SIDI V6 Timekeeper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Cubeville
    Posts
    1,083
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnick76 View Post
    It's like the Delorean in Back To The Future II.
    Dang! You beat me to it!!!!

    Mr Fusion!!!
    Forget World Peace....

    Picture Yourself Using Your Turnsignal!!! Hidden Content

  9. #7
    4.6 Liter Northstar V8 Hunid Racks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,769
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    I wonder if it would be posible to down size this technology for those that have a situation allowing for self sustainablity.

    Then combine it with this:

    http://www.climate-energy.com/index.asp

  10. #8
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Posts
    1,258
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    Please tell me someone in GM marketing or legal is working on securing the rights to use the name Mr. Fusion and some Back to the Future references in an ad campaign should this technology work out.

  11. #9

    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    73
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekeeper View Post
    Dang! You beat me to it!!!!

    Mr Fusion!!!
    X2...

  12. #10
    4.6 Liter Northstar V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,770
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: GM's Ethanol from Garbage Partner

    The below quote is what will make or break this company. If the number is correct - or at least even close to true, then we will be hearing more from them in the future, and they will be a player. However, a 7.7 return on energy is a high number that is unmatched in the cellulosic tech arena and therefore brings natural skepticism. My blessings go out, but my skepticism remains until we see real, long term numbers and results.

    Energy In, More Energy Out
    Bill Roe, Coskata's president and CEO, said the energy equation is equally impressive. A more understandable issue than the carbon released is the amount of energy that goes into fuel production versus how much you get back out. How to calculate this relative to gas is a subject of heated debate, but on a consistent scale, corn-based ethanol has an energy balance of 1.3 (1.3 units of energy out for every 1 unit put into the process), and Tobey says Coskata's is 7.7.

  13. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.1.2