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    GM Forms New Vehicle Engineering Organization for Hybrids, Extended-Range Electric Vehicles and Batteries

    24 January 2008

    General Motors has formed a new engineering organization that is dedicated to implementing hybrid and extended-range electric vehicles (E-REVs) and advanced battery technology in another step aimed at bringing the electrification of vehicles into the mainstream development process more quickly.
    The global team will be led by Robert Kruse, executive director of vehicle engineering for hybrids, electric vehicle and batteries. In North America, the team will be based in Warren and Milford, Mich. In Europe, the team will be based in Mainz-Kastel, Germany and in Asia-Pacific they will be located in Shanghai, China.

    The future of automotive transportation will be based on electrification of our vehicles. By having a vehicle engineering team in place and focused on delivering the technical aspects of hybrids and E-REVs, we can accelerate these programs and get them into production quickly and efficiently.
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    Re: GM Forms New Vehicle Engineering Organization for Hybrids, Extended-Range Electri

    Heh - note the Asia-Pacific group is in China and not somewhere else that one would expect.

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    Re: GM Forms New Vehicle Engineering Organization for Hybrids, Extended-Range Electri

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    One step closer.

    www.greencarcongress.com/2008/01/gm-forms-new-ve.html#more



    GM Forms New Vehicle Engineering Organization for Hybrids, Extended-Range Electric Vehicles and Batteries

    24 January 2008

    General Motors has formed a new engineering organization that is dedicated to implementing hybrid and extended-range electric vehicles (E-REVs) and advanced battery technology in another step aimed at bringing the electrification of vehicles into the mainstream development process more quickly.
    The global team will be led by Robert Kruse, executive director of vehicle engineering for hybrids, electric vehicle and batteries. In North America, the team will be based in Warren and Milford, Mich. In Europe, the team will be based in Mainz-Kastel, Germany and in Asia-Pacific they will be located in Shanghai, China.

    I completely agree that Electric is the future. Think about it, the infrastructure is already there. Park your car in a parking lot and chances are theres a light pole within a reasonable distance. Implementing this technology would be the easiest and most feasable way to move away from petroleum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fspalt View Post
    I completely agree that Electric is the future. Think about it, the infrastructure is already there. Park your car in a parking lot and chances are theres a light pole within a reasonable distance. Implementing this technology would be the easiest and most feasable way to move away from petroleum.
    subsidized electricity for our cars when we park in public places?

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    Kind of late to the party aren't we?

    We just decided to do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Type View Post
    Heh - note the Asia-Pacific group is in China and not somewhere else that one would expect.
    It appears that China is going to figure large in many hybrid plans outside of the Japanese.
    They have some of the materials needed for batteries - there's the labor..... the 'easy' work/environmental 'rules', and as always that huge potential market.... all in one place.
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    Re: GM Forms New Vehicle Engineering Organization for Hybrids, Extended-Range Electri

    Quote Originally Posted by 63GrandSport001 View Post
    subsidized electricity for our cars when we park in public places?
    Subsidized? No. I would expect you'd see a parking meter type set up springing up everywhere (and I do mean everywhere).

    Park your car. Plug into the "meter". Put in your money for your 15 minute, half hour, or whatever charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Injun Ear View Post
    Kind of late to the party aren't we?

    We just decided to do this?
    Late to the party before any body else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Injun Ear View Post
    Kind of late to the party aren't we?

    We just decided to do this?
    They've been working on these projects for a while now... I think they're just really cementing the structure behind it. Makes sense... and I like that they have three global centers. Lets just hope that they communicate very closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
    Subsidized? No. I would expect you'd see a parking meter type set up springing up everywhere (and I do mean everywhere).

    Park your car. Plug into the "meter". Put in your money for your 15 minute, half hour, or whatever charge.
    The infrastructure most definitely is NOT in place for this.

    What's the current draw of and the wire size going to that lightpost? 15-20 amp 110V? You're going to get a trickle charge out of that. If you expect to drive 30 miles into the city on electric power, plug in for an hour or so at the shopping mall and get enough juice to drive the 30 miles home, you're sure as hell not going to be able to do it without some serious dedicated power supplies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan View Post
    Subsidized? No. I would expect you'd see a parking meter type set up springing up everywhere (and I do mean everywhere).

    Park your car. Plug into the "meter". Put in your money for your 15 minute, half hour, or whatever charge.
    How about a plastic card, like a charge card, that would add the amount of electricity to your home electric bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D C View Post
    The infrastructure most definitely is NOT in place for this.

    What's the current draw of and the wire size going to that lightpost? 15-20 amp 110V? You're going to get a trickle charge out of that. If you expect to drive 30 miles into the city on electric power, plug in for an hour or so at the shopping mall and get enough juice to drive the 30 miles home, you're sure as hell not going to be able to do it without some serious dedicated power supplies.
    Most light poles are run off of a wire smaller than the powerbar everyone has their computer, monitor, speakers ect off of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fspalt View Post
    I completely agree that Electric is the future. Think about it, the infrastructure is already there. Park your car in a parking lot and chances are theres a light pole within a reasonable distance. Implementing this technology would be the easiest and most feasable way to move away from petroleum.
    Except the infrastructure is old and in need of a massive overhaul. If you live in California or if you were part of the east coast blackout a few years ago you realize that!

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    Does anyone know how much power the solar panels can make? would they be enough to recharge a electric car?? wouldnt be suprised to see multi storey car parks in the future with solar panels on the roof so people can park and recharge the car if they can get enough juice out of them, without any harmfull emissions goin into the air

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    Quote Originally Posted by D C View Post
    The infrastructure most definitely is NOT in place for this.

    What's the current draw of and the wire size going to that lightpost? 15-20 amp 110V? You're going to get a trickle charge out of that. If you expect to drive 30 miles into the city on electric power, plug in for an hour or so at the shopping mall and get enough juice to drive the 30 miles home, you're sure as hell not going to be able to do it without some serious dedicated power supplies.
    While the infrastructure IS in place, and chargers could be set up by tomorrow (adding circuits of any amperage you like to a metered charging station isn't difficult) there are still issues.

    It would indeed take more than "15 minutes" to do any meaningful charge (at least with current battery technology) but yeah, parking meter type charging stations would become common, even if just for "topping off" your charge (maybe for a couple hours while you are at work or shopping):

    Security - I paid for the charge, but somebody disconnecting me and plugging in theirs while I'm away.

    And again, security - somebody's going to be stealing all this expensive copper.

    The electricity draw from the electric power grid would require upgraded capabilities if millions of people are plugging in. But that is no different than plugging in at home, same grid.

    And of course, you won't see any of this until (or if) plug in cars become common. So don't hold your breath.
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