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    Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    For hydrogen-powered vehicles to succeed, the fuel needs to be pumped into tanks as easily as gasoline?and without the threat of Hindenburg-like disasters.

    Sandia National Laboratories recently suggested an alternative technology for synthesizing carbon-based fuels so that the current U.S. fuel distribution system can be used. Now, Ford Motor Co. has emerged with an autocatalytic reaction scheme involving three hydrides that could someday enable hydrogen to be pumped into tanks as easily as gasoline.

    The technique, called a ternary-hydride autocatalytic reaction, stores hydrogen in a solid semi-metal?a compound of magnesium, lithium and hydrogen?that can quickly be absorbed and released. Others have already suggested using metal hydrides for hydrogen storage since the reaction is well-known and reversible. Until now, the temperatures and pressures required to release the hydrogen were too high to be feasible

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Still not from water, the most abundant (chemcial) COMPOUND on this planet
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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    How long does it take to fill up a regular hydrogen car?

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    FYI - hydrogen, while flammable, wasn't the cause of the Hindenburg disaster.

    Your vehicle isn't going to burst into flames while refueling, at least not moreso than refueling with gasoline and billions of people do that every day.

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    Still not from water, the most abundant chemcial on this planet
    Water is burnt Hydrogen. Hydrogen from water is never an energy source always a sink.

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by 1931Chevy View Post
    Sandia National Laboratories recently suggested an alternative technology for synthesizing carbon-based fuels so that the current U.S. fuel distribution system can be used. ...

    The technique, called a ternary-hydride autocatalytic reaction, stores hydrogen in a solid semi-metal compound of magnesium, lithium and hydrogen that can quickly be absorbed and released. ...
    I don't get it.

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Hmmm with ford becoming more and more a research company with a front for selling cars, maybe their stock is worth me owning a couple shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    Still not from water, the most abundant chemcial on this planet
    That isn't what the article is saying...

    It is saying that they can mix the hydrogen that already exists with these hydrides, which makes a non-flammable liquid that pumps into the car where the metals are removed making hydrogen again.



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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Not an entirely new idea, intriguing though, and probably very expensive due to the Mg and Li.
    A while ago scientists were testing boron based hydrogen absorbers, so the premise isnt new.


    Oh, you can get fuel hydrogen from water, it just requires a hefty bit of electricity.
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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    FYI - hydrogen, while flammable, wasn't the cause of the Hindenburg disaster.

    Your vehicle isn't going to burst into flames while refueling, at least not moreso than refueling with gasoline and billions of people do that every day.
    Unless your driving a space shuttle!

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    FYI - hydrogen, while flammable, wasn't the cause of the Hindenburg disaster.

    Your vehicle isn't going to burst into flames while refueling, at least not moreso than refueling with gasoline and billions of people do that every day.

    Thank you for this. Hydrogen doesn't simply explode for no reason, anymore than gasoline. Something ignited it. It's amazing that after 70 years, this it is still accepted that hydrogen itself was to blame.

    I have often wondered if there was a way to make hydrogen transferable and storable by making it at least temporarily either liquid, or as this link explains, semi-solid.
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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Sure when you paint a cloth covering with a liquid that closely resembles the burn properties of gunpowder and induce a spark to it. blame the gas.. that will do it. while I truly feel any more money spent on researching hydrogen as a fuel is wasted, it's not because of the danger of it... if it makes people feel better, so be it.

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by megeebee View Post
    Thank you for this. Hydrogen doesn't simply explode for no reason, anymore than gasoline. Something ignited it. It's amazing that after 70 years, this it is still accepted that hydrogen itself was to blame.
    Think Helium instead of hydrogen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    Still not from water, the most abundant chemcial on this planet
    Water isnt a chemical.. it is a compound.

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    Re: Ford finds way to fuel cars with hydrogen

    Quote Originally Posted by firesho View Post
    Water isnt a chemical.. it is a compound.
    But water is 2 thirds Hydrogen.

    Opps sorry I see my mistake

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