Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

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    Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer
    MotorTrend
    March 14, 2011
    by Scott Evans


    With the EPA finalizing its labeling and other rules governing E15 ethanol over the next few months, the official introduction of the new blend is expected by this summer.

    “We are now in the process of completing a rule that will establish national labeling,” EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson told the Senate Agriculture Committee at a hearing last Thursday. “We expect to issue a final rule in the next few months.”

    After an encouraging third-party report last fall played down the potential risks of increasing the legal ethanol blend to 15 percent, the EPA announced in October it would raise the limit from the current 10-percent cap. The EPA made the change official in January. There is a catch, however. E15 can only be used in vehicles built in 2001 or later as older vehicles are less resistant to the corrosive effects of alcohol in the fuel system.

    The debate over E15 ethanol has been a contentious one. Proponents say larger ethanol blends will reduce our dependence on foreign oil, reduce emissions, lower gas prices and stimulate the economy. Critics argue that ethanol contains less energy than gasoline and is less efficient, that it can damage the fuel and emissions systems in older vehicles, that ethanol requires too many government subsidies to be viable, and that it stretches grain crops too thin as low-grade corn for ethanol production replaces high-grade edible corn in the fields, raising corn prices.

    To straddle the debate, the EPA has declared that E15 is only safe in newer vehicles, specifically those built in 2001 or later. To prevent confusion at the pump, the EPA will require that E15 be dispense only out of special pumps that don’t also pump regular gasoline. E15 pumps will be clearly labeled as such and will have warnings on them to stop people with older vehicles from filling up with E15 instead of gasoline. E15, naturally, will have to be stored in a separate tank from gasoline and E10.

    Research by the EPA and by Ricardo shows that more than 150 million vehicles on the road in the U.S. today were built after 2001 and consume some 74 percent of the gasoline. Ricardo also found that 88 percent of vehicles on the road in the U.S. were built after 1993, so a majority of cars on the road today will be able to use E15. The EPA estimates that there will be more than 187 million vehicles capable of using E15 by 2014, representing 85 percent of gasoline usage.

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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Bad news, for a variety of reasons. The corn lobby wins again.

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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    If it lowers gas prices and I can run it in my Cavalier, it's fine with me.
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    The biggest issue I have with this is the increasing price of corn.

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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyRules View Post
    The biggest issue I have with this is the increasing price of corn.
    You will not see an increased price of corn related to the use of ethanol.

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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    That sucks. E10 is bad enough.
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Wish wecould all run e85 and tell the members of OPEC to pound sand.

    Turbo motors tuned to e85 only make more power too!
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Boooourns. So will gas be 5% cheaper?

    This is just getting silly now.

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    ADM to EPA: THANKEW!!!
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Quote Originally Posted by Suziebob View Post
    If it lowers gas prices and I can run it in my Cavalier, it's fine with me.
    1) It won't cost less.

    2) Plan on more frequent visits to the gas pump.

    3) Put some money aside for future repairs.
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    well, this just says you MAY use it. and since it will require separate tanks and pumps i wonder how many gas stations will really make the investment.

    i'll be avoiding it- no exceptions.
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Quote Originally Posted by DoomsDave View Post
    You will not see an increased price of corn related to the use of ethanol.
    why not? they'll grow this instead of edible corn. more edible corn = more supply = lower price.
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Quote Originally Posted by chakis24 View Post
    why not? they'll grow this instead of edible corn. more edible corn = more supply = lower price.
    Edible corn is not exactly in short supply right now. Even with the ethanol increase, it still won't be in short supply.

    Some interesting quotes:

    • Higher corn prices increase animal feed and ingredient costs for farmers and food manufacturers, but pass through to retail prices at a rate less than 10 percent of the corn price change.
    • Given that foods using corn as an ingredient make up less than a third of retail food spending, overall retail food prices would rise less than 1 percentage point per year above the normal rate of food price inflation when corn prices increase by 50 percent.


    Source: http://www.ers.usda.gov/AmberWaves/F...CornPrices.htm

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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    Quote Originally Posted by vsd View Post
    Bad news, for a variety of reasons. The corn lobby wins again.
    Bad bad bad. I will be writing some of my "representatives" in a few hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z284ever View Post
    That sucks. E10 is bad enough.
    E10 sucks, let me count the ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z284ever View Post
    1) It won't cost less.

    2) Plan on more frequent visits to the gas pump.

    3) Put some money aside for future repairs.
    Our 2001 PT runs like fresh poop on E-gas.
    Our 2007 Spectra has owner's manual warning of anything in excess of E10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chakis24 View Post
    well, this just says you MAY use it. and since it will require separate tanks and pumps i wonder how many gas stations will really make the investment.

    i'll be avoiding it- no exceptions.
    It will be like E10. You MAY use it, or you MAY park your vehicles and walk. They will all go to E15 because there will be profits to be made.
    Every pump within 50 miles of here is E10, every one but one gas station that has some God's Gas pumps. At at least a 50 cents/gal premium. Oh, it's not premium.
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    Re: Ethanol Is Coming: E15 To Launch By Summer

    What is the point of putting this out there if not everyone can use it and gas station owners will have to put in new tanks and pumps and all the other equipment that goes along with it. It seems stupid for them to even bother. I take that back. It IS stupid!

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