Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

  1. Welcome to GM Inside News Forum – General discussion forum for GM

    Welcome to GM Inside News Forum - a website dedicated to all things GM.

    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, Join GM Inside News Forum today!
     
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    GM: our "next generation" mild hybrids will use lithium-ion batteries

    In an interview with Kelly Blue Book at the 2007 LA Auto Show, General Motors hybrid vehicle expert Stephen Poulos says GM's "next generation" BAS (belt alternator starter) hybrid system will keep the same architecture but use lithium-ion batteries giving it more voltage, higher power and significantly increased capability. Here is exactly what Stephen said at the end of the interview when asked what can we look forward to from GM on hybrids:

    I can tell you that we are going at this with a huge amount of commitment. We are hiring engineers as fast as we can do it in the hybrid area. We see a significant growth in the number of models that will be hybridized over the future. Recently we announced, Tom Stevens announced, head of GM power train, that we will have a next generation of our GM hybrid system that's in the Malibu. It will be a higher voltage, higher power system. Same basic architecture, motor generator with a belt drive. Significantly increased capability using lithium-ion batteries. So that's one hint out there of what's coming ... but those will be going in a lot of places.
    Last edited by HoosierRon; 11-28-2007 at 03:46 PM.

  2. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    6.2 Liter LS3 V8 rueben44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    3,244
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 308 Times in 162 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Why tell everyone that? What he is proposing will be like 2011 or something and now Honda and Toyota can prepare to leap frog it.
    2012 Hyundai Veloster
    2008 Ford F150 Regular Cab
    Future car: Cadillac ELR or Tesla Model S

  4. #3
    7.0 Liter LS7 V8 coaster.n3rd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    5,059 Miles SE of Dutch Harbor
    Posts
    4,823
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by rueben44 View Post
    Why tell everyone that? What he is proposing will be like 2011 or something and now Honda and Toyota can prepare to leap frog it.
    I don't understand comments like this. Its not Toyota & Honda can come up with some system in the next year to "one up" GM. The amount of R&D that goes into making anything production ready is so massive that this can't just be "leap frogged" on a moments notice because someone from the competing company mentioned plans.

    BAS 2.0 could come out next month for all we know.
    Mercedes: Irrellevant in todays market.


    "I would never consider owning a Buick because of the sheer stigma of owning a Buick, no matter how good they got;"
    -Mgescuro the follower.

  5. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 Strapping.Young.Lad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    6,991
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    WHY are they still making Mild-Hybirds.

    They should have a 2 Mode with Lithium Ions, but in Cars.
    1992 Nissan Skyline R32 GTS-T
    Formerly Known As: FordRules

  7. #5
    3.0 Liter SIDI V6
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    LI, NY
    Posts
    644
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    if its gonna be more powerful i'd feel a little more comfortable with a chain drive of some sort rather than a belt if its possible

  8. #6

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by FordRules View Post
    WHY are they still making Mild-Hybirds.

    They should have a 2 Mode with Lithium Ions, but in Cars.
    Because no one will buy a $30,000 Cobalt.

  9. #7
    6.2 Liter LS9 Supercharged V8 chakis24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    6,105
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by FordRules View Post
    WHY are they still making Mild-Hybirds.

    They should have a 2 Mode with Lithium Ions, but in Cars.

    the better question is why isnt BAS standard across the board? every gm vehicle should have it, and it shouldnt be labeled a hybrid.
    My Ride: 2005 Chevy Silverado Z71
    3" P.A. Body lift, 305/70/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 17x9 Pro Comp Wheels, Halo Projector headlights w/ HID hi's, PIAA P4000 Quattro fogs, Hyper White LED DRL's, Putco Locker Black Bed Rails, Pace Edwards: Jack Rabbit tonneau, Fire & Ice LED light bar, "Patriot" window decal, Flowmaster muffler, iPOD jack,

  10. #8
    3.6 Liter SIDI V6
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    1,198
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by chakis24 View Post
    the better question is why isnt BAS standard across the board? every gm vehicle should have it, and it shouldnt be labeled a hybrid.
    good question.

    This is a good path for all non 2 mode and E-flex vehicles until all platforms are upgraded.
    2007 Avalanche, Black LTZ 4x4
    2002 Grand Prix Black GTP, Intercooled

  11. #9
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    everywhere
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    856
    Thanked 441 Times in 200 Posts
    My Ride
    07 Vette Cruze 2015 Colorado

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by rueben44 View Post
    Why tell everyone that? What he is proposing will be like 2011 or something and now Honda and Toyota can prepare to leap frog it.
    You sound like Honda and Toyota can do anything at will. It's not that simple for them. Our biggest worry is of them copying our ideas.

  12. #10
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    everywhere
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    856
    Thanked 441 Times in 200 Posts
    My Ride
    07 Vette Cruze 2015 Colorado

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by FordRules View Post
    WHY are they still making Mild-Hybirds.

    They should have a 2 Mode with Lithium Ions, but in Cars.
    Because they are less expensive and because they are getting more and more like a full hybrid.

  13. #11
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    everywhere
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    856
    Thanked 441 Times in 200 Posts
    My Ride
    07 Vette Cruze 2015 Colorado

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by spaz View Post
    if its gonna be more powerful i'd feel a little more comfortable with a chain drive of some sort rather than a belt if its possible
    Maybe you should work for GM and show the boys how to do it.

  14. #12
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    everywhere
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    856
    Thanked 441 Times in 200 Posts
    My Ride
    07 Vette Cruze 2015 Colorado

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by chakis24 View Post
    the better question is why isnt BAS standard across the board? every gm vehicle should have it, and it shouldnt be labeled a hybrid.
    I think that's coming.

  15. #13
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    everywhere
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    856
    Thanked 441 Times in 200 Posts
    My Ride
    07 Vette Cruze 2015 Colorado

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by tholland View Post
    good question.

    This is a good path for all non 2 mode and E-flex vehicles until all platforms are upgraded.
    Right now the two mode hybrid is too expensive for small cars. When the price goes down, you'll will see them in small cars.

  16. #14
    6.0 Liter L76 V8 yamahr1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    2,082
    Thanks
    159
    Thanked 905 Times in 334 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    I might rather have the mild hybrid. Most of the benefit for less expense and complexity, plus a much smaller battery pack (and less weight increase.) Reports are that the mild hybrid Malibu drives beautifully, unlike the first generation BAS.

  17. #15

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Breaking Video: GM's Next Gen Mild Hybrids To Use Li-Ion

    Quote Originally Posted by yamahr1 View Post
    I might rather have the mild hybrid. Most of the benefit for less expense and complexity, plus a much smaller battery pack (and less weight increase.) Reports are that the mild hybrid Malibu drives beautifully, unlike the first generation BAS.
    The mild hybrid Malibu that you can buy today is the first generation BAS. You get about a 1-2 mpg increase in mileage. This article is talking about using lithium ion batteries on the NEXT generation system.

  18. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.1.2