Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

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    Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/environme...090322448.html

    AUSTRALIAN scientists have made a biofuels breakthrough, turning waste products like paper and wood trimmings, crop residue and garden clippings into a stable "bio-crude".

    If successfully commercialised, the process could massively reduce the amount of waste going into landfills and help the biofuels industry steer clear of the controversial food versus fuel debate. Most of the world's biofuel is made from food crops such as corn and sugar. Many oppose biofuels because they believe they will lead to higher food prices and hunger among the poor.

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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    This is a very good thing. However, it is hardly a forehead-slapping breakthrough. This is cellulosic ethanol, a major research topic in the USA and elsewhere. Congratulations to the Australians for their progress.

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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    It would be great if they could use the husks off sugar cane. They burn it everywhere sugar is cropped.

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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMe View Post
    This is a very good thing. However, it is hardly a forehead-slapping breakthrough. This is cellulosic ethanol, a major research topic in the USA and elsewhere. Congratulations to the Australians for their progress.
    The reason why I posted it was they seemed to be calling it bio crude more than ethanol, so I assumed they had managed to turn it more into a crude oil like product rather than ethanol. They are currently seeking a patent on the process.

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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    Quote Originally Posted by chinamonty View Post
    It would be great if they could use the husks off sugar cane. They burn it everywhere sugar is cropped.
    There are only 2 choices there. Peel it whilst it stands or use the litter at the end of its transit. Unfortunately, the cost of transportation becomes uneconomical, ie. You get charged haulage by weight, so you pay to ship the green but get less usable sugar per tonne. The upshot is that farmers that are not in closer proximity to the mill, can still send their crops further with out it going off (3days max for burned cane) and have at least a portion of the haulage compensated for. Or is that what you were getting at?


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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    Quote Originally Posted by mikmak View Post
    There are only 2 choices there. Peel it whilst it stands or use the litter at the end of its transit. Unfortunately, the cost of transportation becomes uneconomical, ie. You get charged haulage by weight, so you pay to ship the green but get less usable sugar per tonne. The upshot is that farmers that are not in closer proximity to the mill, can still send their crops further with out it going off (3days max for burned cane) and have at least a portion of the haulage compensated for.
    But if the cellulose in the cane becomes a commodity of value too, then they will get paid for the sugar and the cellulose, which will make transporting it worthwhile.



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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMe View Post
    This is a very good thing. However, it is hardly a forehead-slapping breakthrough. This is cellulosic ethanol, a major research topic in the USA and elsewhere. Congratulations to the Australians for their progress.
    I think they made the point that this new process turns organic waste into a 'bio-crude’, which I assume is more akin to crude oil. And they claim that previous bio-crude processes produced a bio-crude that broke down chemically after a few days making it unsuitable for extracting fuel etc from.

    This greater longevity thus allows small de-centralised recyclers of bio-waste to convert their material into this bio-crude; which is then suitable for longer transport to presumably bio-refineries where it could be 'cracked' into more than just an ethanol type liquid fuel.

    Just as crude oil is cracked into gasoline, diesel, kerosene, bitumen tar and other chemicals from which plastics, drugs and other things are manufactured. If this is the case then setting up bio-crude pants rather than 'specialist' ethanol plants would offer far greater industrial flexibility in ultimately replacing fossil fuels.



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    Re: Australian Scientist make Bio crude from Waste paper

    Quote Originally Posted by MonaroSS View Post
    I think they made the point that this new process turns organic waste into a 'bio-crude’, which I assume is more akin to crude oil. And they claim that previous bio-crude processes produced a bio-crude that broke down chemically after a few days making it unsuitable for extracting fuel etc from.

    This greater longevity thus allows small de-centralised recyclers of bio-waste to convert their material into this bio-crude; which is then suitable for longer transport to presumably bio-refineries where it could be 'cracked' into more than just an ethanol type liquid fuel.

    Just as crude oil is cracked into gasoline, diesel, kerosene, bitumen tar and other chemicals from which plastics, drugs and other things are manufactured. If this is the case then setting up bio-crude pants rather than 'specialist' ethanol plants would offer far greater industrial flexibility in ultimately replacing fossil fuels.


    This is correct. ONe of the nice things about biocrude is the fact that it can be used for a variety of different things. Furthermore, the quality is far superior to any crude pulled from the ground - thus requiring far less, and in some cases none at all, refining.

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