Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

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    Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    "Scientists at Cardiff University in Wales have announced the development of an organic polymer capable of storing around three per cent hydrogen by weight. The new polymer is an improvement on one developed previously by the scientists, which was capable of storing 1.7 percent hydrogen by weight."

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/070828-4.htm

    This developed more could make the storage of hydrogen easier and better.
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    "Off the shelf" algae production system slashes costs

    As I have always said, if biofuel can honestly be produced for less than petroleum fuel, the market will rush to it as fast as it can. THe following story is very big news.

    Companies to Introduce Lower-Cost Algae Production System

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    Capital, operations and maintenance costs for large-scale algae systems have been a barrier to adoption for algae-based fuels processing, according to Diversified. The Simgae approach promises 1/2 – 1/16th the capital cost, profitable oil production costs at $0.08 – $0.12/pound, and low operations and maintenance requirements. Under an exclusive worldwide license, Diversified Energy will provide systems engineering and project management to commercialize the technology....

    The tubing is laid out in parallel across a field. Under pressure, water containing the necessary nutrients (nitrogen and phosphorous) and a small fraction of algae are slowly pumped into the biotape. As the flow moves along the biotape, CO2 is injected and oxygen is relieved through commercially-modified injection systems connected to common PVC piping. After roughly 24 hours the flow leaves the Algae Biotape with a markedly greater concentration of algae than was started.

    All the supporting hardware components and processes involved in Simgae are direct applications from the agriculture industry. Re-use of these practices avoids the need for expensive and complex hardware and costly installation and maintenance.

    The Simgae design is expected to provide an annual algae yield of 100 – 200 dry tons per acre. Capital costs are expected to be approximately $45,000 – $60,0000 (a 2 – 16 times improvement over competing systems) and profitable oil production costs are estimated at only $0.08 – $0.12/pound. These oil costs compare to recent market prices of feedstock oils anywhere from $0.25 – $0.44/pound.

    The partners are currently conducting a demonstration of the technology in Casa Grande, Arizona.

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    Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Notice how all of these stories are from developing countries. No one country has a monopoly on biofuels.

    New sugar beet produced more ethanol than sugar cane
    Syngenta has introduced sugar beet in India for cultivation in tropical conditions. Tropical sugar beet, says the company, brings significant agronomic, environmental and output advantages to Indian farming and the Indian economy. The beet, it says, delivers similar output yields to sugar cane and can be used both for processing sugar for food and conversion to bioethanol.

    The new sugar beet can be grown in relatively dry areas with substantially less water than typically required by sugar cane. It is faster growing and can be harvested after five months allowing farmers to grow a second crop on the same land, thus increasing agricultural output and raising farmer income.
    Burma (Myanmar) to export jatropha-based biodiesel
    SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Myanmar plans to export jatropha-based biodiesel as it attempts to tap the growing market for biofuels, a senior Myanmar energy official told a seminar yesterday.

    "By this time next year we hope to have seven million acres (2.8 million hectares) of jatropha plantations in full swing and a large amount of biodiesel for export in the future," said U Soe Myint, director general of Myanmar's energy planning department.

    According to Lim Hong Hui, chief executive officer of Singapore's Tian Biogreen Energy Ltd (TBEL), 2 million hectares of jatropha crops can produce 1.2 million tonnes a year of jatropha crude, a similar product to crude palm oil.

    "Myanmar's requirements for biodiesel are minimal, but the jatropha project should earn some foreign exchange income," said the director general.
    Brazil faces oversupply of ethanol within 2 years
    Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Cargill Inc., the largest U.S. agricultural company, said Brazil faces a glut of ethanol in two years as supply grows faster than domestic demand.

    An increase in ethanol exports to the U.S. would reduce the risk of oversupply, said Sergio Rial, the company's Latin America director. The U.S. currently imports only 3 percent of its ethanol consumption, he said during an interview in Sao Paulo today.

    Cargill, based in Wayzata, Minnesota, is doubling sugar cane-processing capacity at its Cevasa plant to 1.2 million metric tons a year starting mid-2008, according to Rial. The plant will produce ethanol and most of the output will be exported, he said.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    wow, it's a good thing we didn't decide to start producing our own fuel like Brazil. we might have too much of it! what would we do then???

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    New sugar beet produced more ethanol than sugar cane
    Quote:Syngenta has introduced sugar beet in India for cultivation in tropical conditions. Tropical sugar beet, says the company, brings significant agronomic, environmental and output advantages to Indian farming and the Indian economy. The beet, it says, delivers similar output yields to sugar cane and can be used both for processing sugar for food and conversion to bioethanol.

    The new sugar beet can be grown in relatively dry areas with substantially less water than typically required by sugar cane. It is faster growing and can be harvested after five months allowing farmers to grow a second crop on the same land, thus increasing agricultural output and raising farmer income.
    The title was really awesome, because I don't like to eat beets anyway. Then I saw the word "tropical" and realized that it won't help us in the Midwest much...

    On the other hand, if Indians are using less oil, that's better for us.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Ron,

    Thanks again for posting all these updates. It is great to see so much creativity being applied on a worldwide basis on generating alternative fuels.

    Jack.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by ronald mcretard
    wow, it's a good thing we didn't decide to start producing our own fuel like Brazil. we might have too much of it! what would we do then???
    Ummmmm... import less terror juice?

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by HoosierRon
    Ummmmm... import less terror juice?
    yeah sorry i guess i didn't lay on the sarcasm thick enough

    on topic, i second JackDye's comment
    Last edited by Ronald McChevy; 08-29-2007 at 12:15 AM.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by ronald mcretard
    yeah sorry i guess i didn't lay on the sarcasm thick enough
    I almost thought it was sarcastic, but I never miss an opportunity to make the point.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    SO how long did it take Brazil to go from 0 to 110 percent needs of Ethanol?

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by ronald mcretard
    wow, it's a good thing we didn't decide to start producing our own fuel like Brazil. we might have too much of it! what would we do then???
    The USA produces more ethanol than Brazil.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by bluecon
    The USA produces more ethanol than Brazil.
    so are you arguing that we are equally energy independent as Brazil? if so, you are sorely mistaken.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by ronald mcretard
    so are you arguing that we are equally energy independent as Brazil? if so, you are sorely mistaken.
    No not at all. I am pointing out that the USA produces more ethanol than Brazil. If the people of the USA are willing to reduce their standard of living to the third world status like much of Brazils population lives in, you could be equally energy dependant, particularly if you would drill for all the available oil in the USA.(ANWAR ring a bell?) All the ethanol produced in Brazil would be a small amount of the fuel required by the USA.

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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by bluecon
    No not at all. I am pointing out that the USA produces more ethanol than Brazil. If the people of the USA are willing to reduce their standard of living to the third world status like much of Brazils population lives in, you could be equally energy dependant, particularly if you would drill for all the available oil in the USA.(ANWAR ring a bell?) All the ethanol produced in Brazil would be a small amount of the fuel required by the USA.
    The USA also has three times the farmland as Brazil on which to grow ethanol feedstocks.
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    Re: Alternative Fuels Update - 8/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainDan
    The USA also has three times the farmland as Brazil on which to grow ethanol feedstocks.
    See problem is, we can't use corn, we are the world's corn store.

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