Ah, my 4000th post as a GMI'er, and on what an unpleasant occasion...
Why give Pontiac a better engine? What's Pontiac but a rebadged Chevy, anyway? Why spend to change engines when we can just repackage what we already have with a twin port grille? So asks the GM Beancounter.
Not many things GM does will get me angry enough to vent near "Asylum" levels regarding its cars (well, some here may beg to differ), but sticking the "Pontiac" Torrent with the same tired ancient 3.4L engine....Yes, that did it. What a steaming pile of Beancounter poo-poo... Lutz, you are Mr. Putz this week in my mind for letting this one get through.
No, no - don't start with the defense. It's not a "solid engine". It's old, cheap (Chinese Cheap, to boot), noisy (I've driven it in the Equinox), not bulletproof or particularly renowned for being reliable (like the equally ancient 3800), and deserves to be retired to that great graveyard in the sky next to the Iron Duke. GM chooses COST over its next generation 3500 engine, yet again 2 years after the Malibu gets the redesigned version of the engine.
Yes, I'll say it again for all the hard of reading, the replacement for the 3400 (the 3500) will have been here for years now, so there really is no excuse, save cost cutting. And if it costs me an extra 500 bucks for a more reliable, recently engineered, redesigned engine and improved reputation for GM, I'll choose the 500 bucks.
Die 3400! Die!3.5-liter V-6, will debut in the 2004 Chevrolet Malibu. The engine offers improved performance and fuel efficiency, and runs smoother and quieter than earlier generation V-6 engines.
The 3500 V-6 features an advanced powertrain control module, improved fuel injection system, a redesigned exhaust manifold and a new catalytic converter contribute to reduced emissions, as well as improved efficiency and performance characteristics. Improvements in cooling, sealing and the accessory drive system add to the engine's overall quality, reliability and durability.
Is the Chinese version slightly different and improved over the old 3.4 that we know? Yes. Did it get "most" of the advancements that the 3500 got? Perhaps. But unless GM was blowing smoke up our collective butts with the PR praising the improvements of the 3500 engine in reliability over its predecessor, we are getting yesteryear's tech in an all new Pontiac that hasn't even come out yet. And at the very least, if you want to claim that the 3400 is every bit as advanced as the 3500 and the 3.5LVVT coming soon --- it has less horsepower and torque than it could, with no apparent benefit in fuel economy. How can you defend that?
You really did it Pontiac, and I officially spit a wet nasty one on the Torrent.
From The Car Connection:
http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&sid=173&n=156Pontiac Reveals Torrent Wagon
Also being talked about - but not shown - at the Anaheim show is the Pontiac Torrent, the 2006 crossover wagon that shares its architecture with the Chevy Equinox and makes its on-sale debut in the fall of 2005. The Torrent, like the Equinox, will be built in Ontario, and sports the same 185-hp, 3.4-liter V-6, in either front-drive or all-wheel-drive format. "The Torrent represents a new dimension of Pontiac 's commitment to 'total performance,'" said Jim Bunnell, Pontiac-GMC general manager. "Along with a spirited powertrain and a crisp handling package rarely seen in an compact SUV, the Torrent adds a degree of flexibility and spaciousness designed to meet the needs of owners with active lifestyles." The 2006 Torrent will join a host of new Pontiac products in that model year, the brand promises, including a G6 coupe, the Solstice roadster, and a G6 convertible.
Mr. Bunnell, for your inane spinning, this one's for you:"The Torrent represents a new dimension of Pontiac 's commitment to 'total performance,'" said Jim Bunnell
Even the HUMILIATION of a Honda engine in a GM vehicle (Saturn VUE Redline) would be preferable to this brand marketing tomfoolery.