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    GM: End of an Era

    GM: End of an Era
    The legacy of the auto giant in Maryland
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    May 02, 2019



    BALTIMORE — General Motors was a presence in Baltimore for nearly seven decades, employing thousands of Marylanders in blue collar jobs that helped build a thriving middle class and grow the area economy.

    But an announcement from the auto behemoth in the fall of 2018 foretold the closing of it’s White Marsh facility. Talking to former employees, area residents, and the wide net of people connected to the production facility revealed the memories and emotions evoked by this industrial stalwart.

    “The legacy that GM had here, the impact it had on the city, the impact it had on the employees and the economy in Baltimore and the surrounding communities.” … “It was the only plant that built the minivan.” … “There was a lot of good people there. It was family.” … “I always felt like GM was a part of Maryland, and this is like the last family member that passed away.”

    As GM closes it’s doors in Maryland, WMAR-2 News takes viewers back through the vehicle manufacturers history in the state in our special presentation, “GM: End of an Era."
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    Re: GM: End of an Era

    Long but quite interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
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    Sad story about GM. It seems that leadership/management can't seem to understand long term planning and strategy. And so the slow but unrelenting spiral downward of GM's market share in the U.S. erodes what was once the envy of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    Long but quite interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
    It was originally aired locally as a 1/2 hour special last Thursday, May 2nd (w/commercials).

    I drive past the (now closed) plant daily going to the gym, and yesterday the parking lot was sadly empty. Saturday May 4th was the last day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingo View Post
    Sad story about GM. It seems that leadership/management can't seem to understand long term planning and strategy. And so the slow but unrelenting spiral downward of GM's market share in the U.S. erodes what was once the envy of the world.
    The White Marsh Plant wasn't even 20 years old!?

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    The White Marsh Plant wasn't even 20 years old!?

    Correct. The GMPT facility in White Marsh (Baltimore County) is quite modern; it opened in December 2000. The GM Baltimore Assembly Plant (aka Broening Highway GM Plant) in Baltimore City was much older, opening in 1935.

    As mentioned in the video, the latter facility operated for 70 years. It has been redeveloped by Duke Realty as Chesapeake Commerce Center:

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    AMericans should proudly have bought more GM products instead of. Foreign crap

    Sad story
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJD1984 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tripowergto Jan2003 View Post
    Long but quite interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
    It was originally aired locally as a 1/2 hour special last Thursday, May 2nd (w/commercials).

    I drive past the (now closed) plant daily going to the gym, and yesterday the parking lot was sadly empty. Saturday May 4th was the last day.
    I used to drive past it a bunch as well coming off 43.. But as U know.. Baltimore is populated with Hondas, Hyundai and Toyotas. Americans in general, like JBZ06 said, need to buy more GM and Ford if they don't want to lose jobs. And before anyone says it.. American cars are just as good as any of the foreign born ones.. For the last 20 years in fact. The very idea that a business is going to keep employing people, the most expensive people in the world no less, and not have their products being bought is ridiculous.

    On a related note... Self Check out.. Imagine supporting your job's acquisition of 20 of those.. And 2 weeks after they are installed.. Boom.. Your job lays off 16 of U.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMiatso DaBang View Post
    The very idea that a business is going to keep employing people, the most expensive people in the world no less, and not have their products being bought is ridiculous.
    What's ridiculous is any business expecting that consumers will continue to buy their product or service when competitors offer something better.
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    Just thinking out loud. Was GM's ownership of half the market always destined to deteriorate, even without the quality disasters of the 70's and 80's? Meaning that our society has grown into one that likes choices. 50 different choices of toothpaste (a nod to Ron Zarella ), a hundred different brands making beer that tastes virtually the same. Multiple cellphone and computer brands that again do the same thing. So assuming my premise is correct, the Japanese and Europeans were always destined to take a big chunk of the domestic's market share.

    Yes, the domestics all made a lot of mistakes opening the door to competition. But even if GM made no mistakes, Toyota, Honda, etc. still would have entered the market and stolen sales. Now the question is, would they (foreign makes) have as much share as they do today?

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    The White Marsh Plant wasn't even 20 years old!?

    Very strong evidence that GM management still lacks the ability to set forth strong, long term strategy and execution. Closing a "new" plant shows GM management is on a "Giddy Up! - Whoa!" method of planning and execution

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    What's ridiculous is any business expecting that consumers will continue to buy their product or service when competitors offer something better.
    OK.. I'll ask. What GM vehicle vs a competitor vehicle are U referring to.. because that's a pretty wide statement?

    I'll just go by what's being canceled recently.

    1) Cruze.. Competitors are Civic, Corolla, Versa, Elantra, Maz3, Focus(also canc). Cruze was a pretty good competitor to all.. with the only one I'll maybe give an edge due to available configurations, the Civic.

    2) Impala.. competitors are Avalon, 300, Maxima (Note.. Impala has consistently since 2014 been rated as a best large car.. styling is on point.. performance on point.. etc etc.)

    3) Volt.. Competitors are Prius PHEV, Cmax (canc), i3, Volt beat them ALL.. is loved by more.

    4) LaX and XTS.. Competitors... ES350.. (are U actually telling me that the ES350 is a better vehicle than either)


    Vehicles that are currently in GMI's crosshairs..

    Camaro. .. They changed the front. It is in reality the KING or performance in the sports coupe segment.
    Silverado.. Interior is the complain here.. IN AN EFFING TRUCK.. LOL.. but I'll cave on this one because if that's the complaint.. my opinion doesn't matter. Either way, GM still sells more trucks than anyone

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    Come on.. ive me examples, because without your statement doesn't hold water. I
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    AMericans should proudly have bought more GM products instead of. Foreign crap

    Sad story
    GM was one of the biggest purveyors of imported vehicles. They dug their own grave to a certain extent, by giving the Europeans and Japanese a toehold in the U.S. market through importing vehicles under the GM brands. (Isuzu, Opel, et al)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    Just thinking out loud. Was GM's ownership of half the market always destined to deteriorate, even without the quality disasters of the 70's and 80's? Meaning that our society has grown into one that likes choices. 50 different choices of toothpaste (a nod to Ron Zarella ), a hundred different brands making beer that tastes virtually the same. Multiple cellphone and computer brands that again do the same thing. So assuming my premise is correct, the Japanese and Europeans were always destined to take a big chunk of the domestic's market share.

    Yes, the domestics all made a lot of mistakes opening the door to competition. But even if GM made no mistakes, Toyota, Honda, etc. still would have entered the market and stolen sales. Now the question is, would they (foreign makes) have as much share as they do today?
    Your question is not only valid, but is insanely real. Look no further than this POS that Americans bought, even if in small quantities and U'll have an answer to your question as CORRECT




    How Hyundai got off the ground in '86 is a mystery. It was plagued with issues from 1986, and U really didn't see a change in that quality go from 10 being a real POS.. to 6 being a moderate POS til maybe around 2010.. But Americans.. always forgiving of foreign, while dogging out the Domestics.. gave it a chance

    And.. people BS themselves all the time.. They wanna make statements like "when the Domestics make a well engineered product then maybe people will buy..." Then U see this.. all from parking your BMW in your garage:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingo View Post
    GM was one of the biggest purveyors of imported vehicles. They dug their own grave to a certain extent, by giving the Europeans and Japanese a toehold in the U.S. market through importing vehicles under the GM brands. (Isuzu, Opel, et al)
    +1
    GM obviously couldn't figure out how to manage that effort properly, as three of those GM affiliated import brands have disappeared from the U.S. market: Isuzu, Suzuki, and Daewoo. And they sold Opel altogether.
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