Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    I saw this earlier. I wonder how the 10spd would compare.
    Straights are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    IF so, then I guess the Z/28 will come with a stock LT1 engine.

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Just imagine what a Z/28 against a ZR1 will be like!

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Hm...John Hennessey?
    Isn't that a guy who cheats and lies to his customers?

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    You clearly hear the corvette does not have rev match engaged and the driver misses a shift, then blames it on traction control

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    You clearly hear the corvette does not have rev match engaged and the driver misses a shift, then blames it on traction control
    John Hennessey said that they ran several times with similar outcomes. The Corvette can easily break traction during the 2-3 shift. I give the credit to the Camaro's close gearing ratios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supraracer View Post
    John Hennessey said that they ran several times with similar outcomes. The Corvette can easily break traction during the 2-3 shift. I give the credit to the Camaro's close gearing ratios.
    The 10 speed is going to kill the Z06, its just a superior shifting system..

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    I'd want to see something a little more scientific than a couple runs before jumping to any conclusion.

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by birdsvsworms88 View Post
    I'd want to see something a little more scientific than a couple runs before jumping to any conclusion.
    Like pricing?

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    IF so, then I guess the Z/28 will come with a stock LT1 engine.
    Could still be a blown engine.

    With not a lot of talk about a Z/28 yet and no 4.2L TTV8 (to be shared between at least Cadillac and the new Vette) in sight, I'm thinking there could be more than a coincidence between the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Like pricing?
    I like what I see. If ZL1 is really as competitive as they suggest with the Vette unprotected by GM and on sale for similar performance at $20k+ markup, color me excited to see what GM thinks they can do or get away with elsewhere at their other brands.

    They aren't perfect substitutes, you're looking at one or the other and for different psychological reasons. Maybe GM is starting to "get" it?

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    A couple/three years ago, I was gassing up at a station near the highway in south central MI, and I heard the loudest, nastiest sounding car I've ever heard on the street fire up, idle at about 2800 for a few seconds, and then gingerly swing out away from the pump, slipping the hell out of the clutch and make it's way to the station front and park.

    I've run built hemis down the track, and this thing made the hair on my neck stand up.

    The guy steps out of the car, unzips the trunk camo and reaches inside to pull a giant canvas out of the trunk and proceeded to encase the car in a locked bag so he could go into the store.

    I watched the scene in utter shock, the car was clearly in the range of 700hp, and as loud as anything I'd ever seen at the dragstrip, and far louder than I would think anybody would try to put on the street.

    I had finished my fueling duties, yet I could not start my car without exiting to ask a single question; I approach the guy and tell him 'I just have one question, is that naturally aspirated?'

    The guy says "I can't,... I can't..." and sets about encasing the car in the bag and I nod in understanding and turn back to my car.

    6 months later, I ran into a little bird from the proving grounds and mention the incident.

    He smiles, nods and says, "Yeah, there were 2 of them. But they're gone now."

    I asked what the deal was, and how a Camaro could be street tested with that much HP, when clearly Vettes weren't even close to that power.

    He said, "Because they can."

    There was never any intent on making this into production, because Corvette Team wouldn't allow it, but that they could propose them, build them and run them, even if it had no chance to ever make it into production.

    He said 750 and turbos.

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by sfbreh View Post
    Could still be a blown engine.

    With not a lot of talk about a Z/28 yet and no 4.2L TTV8 (to be shared between at least Cadillac and the new Vette) in sight, I'm thinking there could be more than a coincidence between the two.



    I like what I see. If ZL1 is really as competitive as they suggest with the Vette unprotected by GM and on sale for similar performance at $20k+ markup, color me excited to see what GM thinks they can do or get away with elsewhere at their other brands.

    They aren't perfect substitutes, you're looking at one or the other and for different psychological reasons. Maybe GM is starting to "get" it?
    There is no way that Camaro keeps up with a Z06 or even a Grandsport on a track. The Corvette has real race car aero, and it does not even have wings like ACR.. its a track monster my friend.. the ZL1 did not even come close to the old Z06 ring time of 7.22, which is hypercar territory. The New Z06 kills everything short of a 918. Its by far a superior sports car.

    But be as it may, it seems there is a three way battle in GM between Camaro, Corvette and the V team, and so far, the Camaro team is scorching the earth.

    In Volkswagen world, the war between Audi and Porsche is legendry. If I were Cadillac, I would kill them all.


    GM should let them go at each other without restrictions. Let the games begin!!
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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Put some corners in there then see who is faster then who LMAO you guys are funny....

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    Re: Proof Camaro and Corvette are on Equal Footing in the GM Hierarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by roadkillz View Post
    Put some corners in there then see who is faster then who LMAO you guys are funny....
    Not the point. The point was to see how close a ZL1 was to a Z06 in a roll on. Until the Z/28 comes out handling is not part of the discussion.

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