Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

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    Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?



    The new 10-speed automatic making it's debut in the Camaro ZL1 later this year is about to proliferate through the General's entire lineup.*

    GM says we'll see the new dime in no less than 8 additional models come 2018, but which?

    Because of efficiency gains it's a given we'll see it in both the Silverado and Sierra and by extension the Suburban, Tahoe and Escalade.

    That makes 5, but what about beyond that?

    We could see it show up bolted to both the CTS and ATS-V. With the CTS-V it would be a literal plug and play, sharing both the Alpha platform and the supercharged LT4 with the Camaro ZL1; while the ATS-V could benefit from an optimized 10-speed keeping it in the boost.

    And what about Cadillac's current flagship the CT6?

    The Corvette Z06 shares an LT4 with the ZL1 and CTS-V-- with it being the pinnacle of General Motors performance one would assume it's the next logical candidate. However, according to Corvette Forum,*at the NCM Corvette Bash a few weeks ago one of the engineers said the A10 won't physically fit, despite being sized similar to the A8; the two extra gears make it slightly longer.

    The Canyon/Colorado twins were expected to get the 8-speed for model year 2016 but that didn't happen. It's possible the delay was due to waiting for the 10-speed but this is unsubstantiated.

    Lastly we come to the Chevy SS, with it's future uncertain beyond 2017 it's not likely GM gives it the A10 during it's last hurrah on Zeta. However at the New York International Auto Show, lead Camaro engineer, Al Oppenheiser hinted a second gen SS sedan could be on the horizon. It's widely expected that should the SS get a new lease on life it will migrate to the Alpha platform, making it another ideal candidate for the 10-speed automatic.

    Also muddling the conclusion is the fact that the 8-speed isn't going away, it's slotted to continue in the Camaro, Corvette, Cadillac sedans and GM's full-size pickups.

    It's possible we see both the A8 and A10 coexist. Similar to the Camaro SS and ZL1, we could see the 8-speed handling lower trims and the 10-speed reserved for the higher end models like ZL1 and Denali.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    I can see the A10 being used and geared towards performance while the A8 setup for economy.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    How about at Ford? Just the F150 and the Mustang? The Entire Lincoln line up will end with the 9 speed FWD JV transmission.

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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    GM's flagship is the Escalade. I need the A10, just for bragging.

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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Only three cars left, I'm thinking CT6 and Escalade Vsports. Not sure what other car. There was talk about work on an updated CTS-V to keep it at the top of the food chain, so maybe we'll see it mated to a high output version of the new V8, but I expect it to keep the same motor and trans.

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    Actually, I know. It'll be the XT5, so you can has as many speeds in your car as you can the bike you haul from your chalet to the outskirts of your neareast city and peddle your way through to all of your favorite artisanal cheese shops on.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    How about at Ford? Just the F150 and the Mustang? The Entire Lincoln line up will end with the 9 speed FWD JV transmission.
    Plus the Navigator, Expedition, Super Duty. Possibly the Ranger and Bronco if they come to fruition.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Yukon, Yukon XL, Tahoe, Suburban, Escalade, Escalade ESV, Silverado, Sierra, Camaro.

    That's 9 models right there.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    I assume they will add them to vehicles with MCE's and redesigns. Not sure if the Camaro is up for a MCE in 2018, so maybe it won't go in the SS until a 2019 (??) MCE.

    I wonder if this is why GM is being so stingy with the 8l90 in fullsize trucks. No point in building another factory to make 8l90's when the new 10L90 or whatever it's called is going to replace it.

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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMontreal View Post
    GM's flagship is the Escalade. I need the A10, just for bragging.
    Agreed.

    Honestly, if it's technically feasible, the entire RWD-based Caddy lineup needs the A10, if only to demonstrate that GM's luxury brand is utilizing the best parts on the corporate shelf.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverEnough View Post
    I assume they will add them to vehicles with MCE's and redesigns. Not sure if the Camaro is up for a MCE in 2018, so maybe it won't go in the SS until a 2019 (??) MCE.

    I wonder if this is why GM is being so stingy with the 8l90 in fullsize trucks. No point in building another factory to make 8l90's when the new 10L90 or whatever it's called is going to replace it.
    I thought they were **** canning the SS?
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    6.2L Suburban Z71 with 10-speed please.....and an integrated brake controller.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    And what shall the nickname of this transmission be......................



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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    The new 10-speed automatic making it's debut in the Camaro ZL1 later this year is about to proliferate through the General's entire lineup.*

    GM says we'll see the new dime in no less than 8 additional models come 2018, but which?
    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Yukon, Yukon XL, Tahoe, Suburban, Escalade, Escalade ESV, Silverado, Sierra, Camaro.

    That's 9 models right there.
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    Better economy in high volume/high margin trucks & SUVs seems a lot more critical than a bit shorter shift times in low volume RWD luxury/performance cars...
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGinNC View Post
    I thought they were **** canning the SS?
    As mentioned, the rumor is that the SS will be revived on Alpha once the Zeta runs its course.

    Back to the 10-speed, I'm surprised to see the chart listing the top gears for both the A8 & A10 as ~0.65:1. I remember the 4th-gen F-bodys coming with a 6M with a 0.50:1 ratio.
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    Re: Which Other GM Vehicles Will Get the New 10-Speed Auto Before 2018?

    Corvette should get the A10. The engineers can make it fit.

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