Submission to the Productivity Commission

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    Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Anyone else make a submission?

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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Productivity Commission? WTF? Is this a joke? It sounds like something out of 1984. Or the Soviet Union.
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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    ^^^At the winning of the election last year, the new "Liberal" government (incase you weren't aware, Liberal is actually conservative in Australia) has gone on a commission binge to justify all the throats it's going to slit at the upcoming budget. Marked for review really means marked for death.

    The Labor government had a party and left a bit of a mess. Their biggest issue was not managing things and spending money before it arrived. So now, "nothing is off the table", even things the promised not to touch. They more than doubled the debt ceiling "to prevent what happened in America from happening here" and come May they are ready to start chopping.

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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Productivity Council = a lot of accountants who review decisions by a lot of accountants who know SFA about productivity. Alternatively you could describe them as people who try to audit something before it has been done (at least that is how it seems to me)

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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by chinamonty View Post
    Productivity Council = a lot of accountants who review decisions by a lot of accountants who know SFA about productivity. Alternatively you could describe them as people who try to audit something before it has been done (at least that is how it seems to me)
    Indeed, it sounds like one of the ministries out of 1984

    edit, damn, Neanderthal beat me

    Anyway what is happening to the Australian auto production industry is sad but I don't think pushing taxpayer dollars could possibly improve lives of the population as a whole. Though in my own country Marchionne is asking for billions so we can have some junk minivans. It's really an unfortunate right mess that we have gotten ourselves into when this stuff starts becoming so common...



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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by Smaart Aas Saabr View Post
    Indeed, it sounds like one of the ministries out of 1984

    edit, damn, Neanderthal beat me

    Anyway what is happening to the Australian auto production industry is sad but I don't think pushing taxpayer dollars could possibly improve lives of the population as a whole. Though in my own country Marchionne is asking for billions so we can have some junk minivans. It's really an unfortunate right mess that we have gotten ourselves into when this stuff starts becoming so common...
    The big problem I have with this whole issue is that politicians don't seem to acknowledge that auto manufacturing companies are training grounds for lots of people. Mechanical engineers leaving uni aren't worth much until they have worked at their 'trade' for a while. Electronic engineers similarly, theories are quite OK but until you have seen production happening their are a lot of things that you will get wrong when designing products. The subsidies to the industry could easily be looked at as training subsidies because to set up training centres to teach techniques that are used in volume manufacture would cost a lot of money. It can't all be simulated or rely on Youtube!
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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    So now the most obvious answer to the withdrawal from Australia comes to light and I am surprised we didn't all notice. South Korea and Australia are about to sign an FTA so Holden will get their GM vehicles from South Korea and some from Opel.

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    Re: Submission to the Productivity Commission

    Quote Originally Posted by chinamonty View Post
    So now the most obvious answer to the withdrawal from Australia comes to light and I am surprised we didn't all notice. South Korea and Australia are about to sign an FTA so Holden will get their GM vehicles from South Korea and some from Opel.
    Actually I mentioned it in my Ex Spurts commentary even though I think Japan is still our highest importer (whoops).

    Quote Originally Posted by mikmak
    Those figures specifically for Australia were 388,985 produced vs. 988,269 sales. Our ratio of build to sale was so low, that even the United Kingdom were twice as strong.
    Conversely, we already had a free trade agreement with Thailand and their figures looked a little like this: 1,125,316 vehicles produced vs. 703,432 sales.

    Thailand is now Australia’s greatest source of automotive imports, followed by South Korea. The Republic of Korea’s numbers are even more impressive: 3,699,350 produced, vs. 1,142,562 local sales. We just introduced a FTA with South Korea too, whom have an automotive production rate nine times our own.
    So any Australian product would have to compete against an industry 9x bigger than ours. That is specifically why Aus manufacturers could only build a unique or premium product with strong opportunities for export, to stay viable.
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