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    Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Joshua Dowling Carsguide
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    Holden has built the 50,000th version of the new Commodore after its first 10 months of production, as demand for the homegrown hero ramps up after hitting an all-time low last year.

    But the company isn’t popping champagne corks just yet: at its peak 10 years ago the company reached the same manufacturing milestone in a little more than three months.

    Holden has built 50,000 VF Commodore sedans, wagons, utes and Caprice limousines over the past 10 months, most of which have been sold domestically. The 50,000th car is a silver Commodore SV6 sedan which is going to a private customer in Lansvale in Sydney’s south-west.

    About 4000 of the 50,000 cars have been exported, primarily to North America, where the Caprice is sold as a police car and the V8 Commodore sedan is sold as the Chevrolet SS. At its peak, Holden exported 60,500 cars in 2005 alone.

    “The VF is quite simply the best quality car Holden has ever built, and to see the 50,000th one roll off the line is a milestone everyone is very proud of,” said Holden’s executive director of manufacturing, Richard Phillips in a media statement.


    Holden said it was unfair to compare the time it took to reach today’s milestone with earlier ones because the new-car market has changed dramatically over the past decade. “It’s a reflection of the unprecedented competition in the market,” said Holden spokesman Sean Poppitt.

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    It's kind of pearls before swine with the Commodore/Caprice. Both in AUS and the USA. It's a great all around car that's being cast aside in favor of @#%^&* CUVS
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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by KingElvis View Post
    It's kind of pearls before swine with the Commodore/Caprice. Both in AUS and the USA. It's a great all around car that's being cast aside in favor of @#%^&* CUVS
    1. The general public is buying CUVs in large numbers, not big V8 sedans.

    2. I may be one of the few saying this, but I'm not convinced that the Commodore/Caprice is going to be simply cast aside once production stops in Australia....... and if you know me, you know I'm not one to make random baseless assumptions.

    Holden's got another 2 years of making the current VF and WM cars..... Let's wait another 12 months and see what happens before we start nailing the coffin shut on Commodore's future.

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by guionM View Post
    1. The general public is buying CUVs in large numbers, not big V8 sedans.

    2. I may be one of the few saying this, but I'm not convinced that the Commodore/Caprice is going to be simply cast aside once production stops in Australia....... and if you know me, you know I'm not one to make random baseless assumptions.

    Holden's got another 2 years of making the current VF and WM cars..... Let's wait another 12 months and see what happens before we start nailing the coffin shut on Commodore's future.
    I doubt Elizabeth will last past end of 2015 - maybe not even that long. Even with 50,000 cars in about 11 months, the factory is running at 50% levels of production on one shift. They can double that. The current Cruze is due to exit no later than end of this year which frees up another 20-30% capacity.

    All they need to do is build out 10-20K PPVs - that will fuflifl obligations made to operators in the US to supply for four or five years. Same with SS - it's selling at a rate of around 3-4K a year allowing for seasonal variation. Build 15,000 and park them, They have enough to see out 2016.

    As GolfBravo indicated, a lot of tooling is already allocated elsewhere in the GM empire. They can just turn over the VE panel presses to the aftermarket (Rare Spares) like they did to all the existing Commodore pressings including blueprints as that has been identified as ongoing honeypot - licencing old parts production for VB-VZ Commodores.

    I don't believe GM will set up another line of low-volume cars in North America. All indications are once Gen V Camaro goes they are closing down the Zeta line if not the entire plant. It's possible but not likely Zeta forms the bare bones of Omega. Doubtful except maybe conceptually.
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    The VF is last affordable large RWD car you will see in this country,
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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    After Ford announced they were closing manufacturing in Australia, Ford came out and did that presentation to selected dealers to show them what products they had planned for Australia post Falcon.

    Any idea if GM will do the same? Or GM has got NFI what to offer instead of the Commodore?
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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by kts350 View Post
    The VF is last affordable large RWD car you will see in this country,
    Same with this country....

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Nice, brings tears to the eyes - well done Australian factory workers!

    As to the buying public - you are all looser with those SUV's.
    Why the hell buy a vehicle that's hard for you to climb in and out without dooring the car parked next to you.
    Your children and elderly parents can hardly get in and out off...

    Yes these wonderful 4wd never leave the tarmac and the only inclination they will ever see is when the clown owners manage to roll due to their high centre of gravity as their ego and vehicle mass exceeds the centrifugal forces.

    Meanwhile the beloved spacious Australian sedan sells less .... yes were not a logical practical lot, just into Hollywood type fads.

    Wonder if the NEXT generation will fall in love with sedans and station wagons?

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Glad that VF is doing well. My mate at work has just requested a CalaisV wagon to replace his Mazda3.
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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    The only new products for Holden are a couple of Opel products that are being investigated at the moment. Other than that, nothing else has been confirmed. MY15 was mentioned as starting production after the plant shutdown at Christmas. Holden hasn't communicated anything else to dealers at this stage.

    There should be a fair bit of new product due next year but. New cruze and captiva. Barina and spark updates and probably a face lift for the Colorado.

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by guionM View Post
    1. The general public is buying CUVs in large numbers, not big V8 sedans.

    2. I may be one of the few saying this, but I'm not convinced that the Commodore/Caprice is going to be simply cast aside once production stops in Australia....... and if you know me, you know I'm not one to make random baseless assumptions.

    Holden's got another 2 years of making the current VF and WM cars..... Let's wait another 12 months and see what happens before we start nailing the coffin shut on Commodore's future.
    These get 16/23mpg - notably LESS than the V6 zeta. You have to have these seven and eight passenger dreamboats for the mommies of the world with two kids. Every family of four needs an eight passenger vehicle. Mommies know! It has a longer wheelbase and much wider turning circle. It's handling is terrible compared to zeta.

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by OzMartin View Post
    Nice, brings tears to the eyes - well done Australian factory workers!

    As to the buying public - you are all looser with those SUV's.
    Why the hell buy a vehicle that's hard for you to climb in and out without dooring the car parked next to you.
    Your children and elderly parents can hardly get in and out off...

    Yes these wonderful 4wd never leave the tarmac and the only inclination they will ever see is when the clown owners manage to roll due to their high centre of gravity as their ego and vehicle mass exceeds the centrifugal forces.

    Meanwhile the beloved spacious Australian sedan sells less .... yes were not a logical practical lot, just into Hollywood type fads.

    Wonder if the NEXT generation will fall in love with sedans and station wagons?
    Increased seat height is exactly the reason many mobility-impaired people buy SUV/CUV is the UK - for me, I just slide straight over on and off the seat - getting UP out of a normal car is near impossible.

    That's the UK - don't recall Australians having short legs to prevent the same applying.

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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by BBDOS CV8 View Post
    All they need to do is build out 10-20K PPVs - that will fuflifl obligations made to operators in the US to supply for four or five years. Same with SS - it's selling at a rate of around 3-4K a year allowing for seasonal variation. Build 15,000 and park them, They have enough to see out 2016.
    This is currently under consideration. The only obstacle is the price that Patric Autocare are asking for logistics and storage - since this would be, for obvious reasons, only a short-term business opportunity for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBDOS CV8 View Post
    As GolfBravo indicated, a lot of tooling is already allocated elsewhere in the GM empire. They can just turn over the VE panel presses to the aftermarket (Rare Spares) like they did to all the existing Commodore pressings including blueprints as that has been identified as ongoing honeypot - licensing old parts production for VB-VZ Commodores.
    Let me just clarify one thing. The only tooling that is already allocated elsewhere in the GM empire is a very limited quantity of manufacturing assets that Holden do actually still own, and that is less than 20% of Elizabeth, and less than 10% of Port Melbourne.

    You have to remember that majority of Holden assets were sold off b/w 2003 and 2008 (just under $3 billion sent to Detroit), and then leased back. Holden has f/all assets. It is almost a virtual company. What about the nice HQ building? Leased? What about the nice Aeron chairs? Leased. Desks? Leased. IT? Leased. Holden company cars? Leased. What about IP? Detroit's. Tooling? Leased. Production line? Leased. Paint shop? Leased.

    This is the main reason why the Commonwealth Bank turned the finance tap off for Holden when Detroit went bankrupt: lack of assets to secure loans.

    BTW, you may see the HQ relocated to another suburb (cheaper rent) at the end of 2015. The only obstacle is the current HQ building landlord (very litigious, they expect huge compensation for contract breach).
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    Re: Milestone: Holden builds 50,000th VF Commodore

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruperts Trooper View Post
    Increased seat height is exactly the reason many mobility-impaired people buy SUV/CUV is the UK - for me, I just slide straight over on and off the seat - getting UP out of a normal car is near impossible.

    That's the UK - don't recall Australians having short legs to prevent the same applying.
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