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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfBravo View Post
    The Acadia was never considered for Opel/Vauxhall - too big, too crude, too thirsty. Buick Envision was co-developed by Opel, and it was supposed to be the flagship (Monza).
    Presumably getting another courtesy car in a few weeks to fix the warranty repair I got done last time. Wonder what it will be?

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfBravo View Post
    The Acadia was never considered for Opel/Vauxhall - too big, too crude, too thirsty. Buick Envision was co-developed by Opel, and it was supposed to be the flagship (Monza).
    Thanks - so was the Envision never sold in any RHD market even though Opel's involvement would have ensured it was RHD-capable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruperts Trooper View Post
    Thanks - so was the Envision never sold in any RHD market even though Opel's involvement would have ensured it was RHD-capable?
    Correct,
    It may have been an Opel developed platform but the Americans definitely developed the larger
    SUVs like it and other large FWDs like Enclave, Traverse and XT6

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Have the dealers actually sold out of cars yet?

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    My local dealer has sold out and signage is coming down this coming week.

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Interesting GoAuto article.


    Holden dealer relationships broke in 2005
    Senate inquiry told GM wrecked the dealer relationship and the business model crumpled

    HOLDEN management in 2005 instigated a change of attitude that effectively broke the strong relationship with dealers and contributed to disharmony that continues today, the senate inquiry into Holden’s conflict with its dealer group was told.
    The Senate, Education and Employment References Committee inquiry this week was also told that despite Holden’s denial, dealers and former executives indicated there was a planned exit from Australia made years before the announcement that Holden would cease production.

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    “In 2005 there was a different way of doing business and – I won’t name names but certainly every dealer in Australia will know who I’m talking about – decided to change the needle a bit and move the partnership relationship to a ‘them and us’.

    “There has been a gradual decline since then in the feeling between the dealers and the factory which has never recovered.”

    The president and managing director of Holden in 2005 was Dennis “Denny” Mooney, who was appointed on January 1, 2004 and returned to the US as vice president of GM Engineering on August 1, 2007.


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    The inquiry also heard from Holden managing director Kristian Aquilina who said the conspiracy theories about GM planning the closure of the brand long before any announcement were incorrect.

    He told the inquiry that he was told of the closure on February 14 and the official announcement was made on February 17.

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    “In addition, it (the submission) asserts that the Holden service operations agreement has forced dealers into contracts riddled with unfair terms and prevents the opportunity for compensation.

    “It says: ‘Holden has effectively assured dealers they have no lifeline to sustain their business once Holden has gone’.”

    Senator Pratt said to Inverell Holden dealer Mark Palmer: “Are you aware of that?”

    Mr Palmer said: “Yes. It’s exactly why we are in this situation.”

    “The agreement is so far in their (Holden) favour there may as well be no agreement,” he said.

    “We (dealers) have no input. It’s all weighted to Holden and there’s no opportunity for negotiation. That is why GM has said insistently that the offer is reasonable.”

    The inquiry is continuing with a final report due at the end of the year.

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

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    So in all reality, Denny Mooney was sent out here to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and start the closedown of Holden?

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    So in all reality, Denny Mooney was sent out here to throw the cat amongst the pigeons and start the closedown of Holden?
    At that stage, definitely not a full closedown, but definitely Elizabeth Plant closure was on the agenda - it was featured heavily in Holden's (top secret, obviously) annual seven-year-plan from mid-2004, it was one of 2 planned scenarios. But things escalated quickly once Elizabeth's fate was announced.

    When DM took over, Holden was insanely profitable, but things deteriorated rapidly under his watch. He managed to send boatloads of cash to Detroit - so much cash went out that in 2006 Holden almost went belly up due to cashflow issues, and Commonwealth Bank told GM to pay their bills and take their business elsewhere. In 12 months he slashed dealer margins and sales allowances, he told major fleet customers to f/off, slashed VE development budget by 40%, halved advertising budget, closed down export department, cancelled Holden Ute (twice!), implemented headcount freeze at a time when many top people simply had enough and left. It was a race to the bottom. Definitely the worst, and most short-sighted, head honcho I've ever worked for. Under his watch Holden staff morale hit rock bottom, it was a very toxic work environment.

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfBravo View Post
    At that stage, definitely not a full closedown, but definitely Elizabeth Plant closure was on the agenda - it was featured heavily in Holden's (top secret, obviously) annual seven-year-plan from mid-2004, it was one of 2 planned scenarios. But things escalated quickly once Elizabeth's fate was announced.

    When DM took over, Holden was insanely profitable, but things deteriorated rapidly under his watch. He managed to send boatloads of cash to Detroit - so much cash went out that in 2006 Holden almost went belly up due to cashflow issues, and Commonwealth Bank told GM to pay their bills and take their business elsewhere. In 12 months he slashed dealer margins and sales allowances, he told major fleet customers to f/off, slashed VE development budget by 40%, halved advertising budget, closed down export department, cancelled Holden Ute (twice!), implemented headcount freeze at a time when many top people simply had enough and left. It was a race to the bottom. Definitely the worst, and most short-sighted, head honcho I've ever worked for. Under his watch Holden staff morale hit rock bottom, it was a very toxic work environment.
    Someone should send mr mooney a box full of covid

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    The last chapter of Holden will be used as the case study for business 101 monumental fkups for decades to come. How "the" quintessential Australian brand could fall so fast and so completely is beyond belief. I don't know if it's fair to lay so much blame at Mooneys feet or was he the local puppet doing Detroit's bidding as 'they knew better'? Not sure we'll ever know the true answer to that and either way it's moot. Holden is gone and the missed potential is breathtaking.

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Our local dealer Booran still has about 20 new unregistered vehicles according to their website.

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    I'm so over GM now. I really hope that H2X gets operational because I really would love to see a ute like the one at this link. https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...ax-ute-124743/

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    Re: Holden dealers expected to sell out of cars “within weeks” after buyers rush show

    Quote Originally Posted by RedHotMike View Post
    The last chapter of Holden will be used as the case study for business 101 monumental fkups for decades to come. How "the" quintessential Australian brand could fall so fast and so completely is beyond belief. I don't know if it's fair to lay so much blame at Mooneys feet or was he the local puppet doing Detroit's bidding as 'they knew better'? Not sure we'll ever know the true answer to that and either way it's moot. Holden is gone and the missed potential is breathtaking.
    Yes hard to blame one person when trashing of the brand had been going on since the 80's IMO. Consistently crappy vehicles with Commodore as the only vehicle worth a look. Most others were a mix of unreliable, poorly made, expensive and dull (some managed to combine a good few as well). GM also shut Holden out of exports to the middles east and then act surprised when large cars start to tank that Aussie buyers done want the alternate dross offered.

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