Just look at the Astra sales: disaster. Everything Holden touch at the moment turns into ****.
Sure it isn't Everything Holden is TOLD to touch turns to *****.
Gotta say as a Adventra owner - this is the *only* model in the lineup that is vaguely interesting to me. That said, it won't be widely appealing but most old 'Ventra owners may be interested - most who own(ed) them love them and to be able to update will have appeal.
The VY/Z versions were very under-rated and surprisingly capable
I had a friend that had a lot of trouble with some body control module or something (?). It was out of sync front to rear or something and it was misdiagnosed multiple times. Such a shame because they loved it.
Having said all that. I still want one... possibly because my wife wants a SUV type SUV, but she did like the pic of the NG CrossTourerShootingBRakeCrossoVerestate
Just when everyone else is eschewing n/a V6s for a turbo four, GM brings out a n/a V6, in a car which will not appeal to traditional Commodore buyers. A pricey AWD V6 is just plain silly. Commodore V6 buyers want a RWD car that can tow itself and seats five people - not four and a half. They're not paying Calais money for a 'Commodore'.
Probably for similar money to the outgoing V8 Calais V or SS-V. I can't see wagon buyers being interested, nor SUV buyers - too much money for one, too limited for the other and too low. Adventras are valued by people who own them, given the youngest ones around today are ten years old and being looked after. They are a pretty serious bit of AWD kit, being RWD-based and quite strong with virtually a Silverado driveline, rated to tow 2200kg which makes them a handy device for weekends away towing a watercraft or a trailer full of dirtbikes. What is this going to tow, with a light-duty torque-managed east-west powertrain?
I reckon it'll make up 5-10% of NG sales. Which means, probably 5-10 a month.
As things are shaping up now my next car is probably going to be a Kia, I've driven lots of Kia's this year and the wife has loved all them I have brought home so far.
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Diesel is dead.
Euro 6 diesels WITH Adblue/DEF are accepted as being CLEANER than Euro 6 petrol/gasoline - in a Euro 6 diesel with Adblue/DEF diesel, PMs are dealt with in the DPF, NOx is dealt with in the SCR and CO2 is LOWER than petrol/gasoline - future petrol/gasoline engine with need DPFs as direct injection increases them greatly.
Diesel cars are dead in the USA, there never was the cost advantage there due to low fuel taxation, and dieselgate has killed off what little chance it had there.
Diesel AND petrol/gasoline cars are dying in European cities where the city's other pollutants causes temperature inversion which prevents atmospheric processing of NOx and PMs.
Diesel will continue to thrive in the rest of Europe simply because of it's lower CO2, and better fuel consumption. Outside European cities, diesel will still be king over petrol/diesel and EVs outside cities are still decades away due to range and recharge time issues.
I don't know how Australia sees diesel cars, probably like the Americans who think they should be in trucks with a big V8 petrol/gasoline engine for cars.
I think the statement that diesel is dead, is just as presumptive as the TourerX (or whatever) is the wrong product. I would expect that Holden will reconsider after they've seen the mix among the lower models.
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