VW Group profits up

[Ruperts Trooper]

VW Group increased it's profits by 18.7% in the first half of 2017, compared to the first half of 2016 - up from €7.5 billion to €8.9 billion

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...elgate-scandal

Dieselgate crisis - what crisis?

[BlackGTP]

While I have been fascinated by this, I do agree that the general public doesn't care.

[richmond2000]

While I have been fascinated by this, I do agree that the general public doesn't care.

I also assume the "revelation" that everybody is CHEATING so in scale VW is NOT BAD compared to the competition

[Ruperts Trooper]

I also assume the "revelation" that everybody is CHEATING so in scale VW is NOT BAD compared to the competition

That's been the sentiment virtually all the way through in Europe - the publicity given to the issue in the US was the first that Europeans generally had heard of it, easily reassured by VW Group claiming it only affected US models - that triggered the revelation in Europe that atmospheric NOx levels hadn't reduced despite the introduction of Euro 5.

Independent tests on a small selection of vehicles showed that most exceeded the NOx limit by a multiple factor, with some exceeding by 40x (GM Vauxhall Zafira) and triggered the introduction of the new WLTP-RDE test to replace the EU-NEDC test which was shown to be "not fit for purpose" - while it became clear that VW Group did have a "case to answer" in Europe, several other brands also had the finger pointed at them about the way their vehicles acted when not being tested - Mercedes-Benz, Fiat, Opel/Vauxhall which diluted the case against VW.

There's also a feeling in Europe that VW are being hounded out of the US which does seem to get them some sympathy at "home".

I'd placed the factory-order for my VW Touareg TDi a couple of weeks before "dieselgate" broke so I sat on the fence for a couple of months and then decided to go ahead with the purchase - I've just helped my son get a Skoda Octavia TDi - both are Euro 6 so the best available.

In Europe, we have bigger issues like the politicians going headlong down the EV route!

[Carbide]

The fact they broke the law, lied to the consumers and then lied to investigators is a separate issue than the public being oblivious, apathetic and unconcerned.

It's kind of what the public does now.