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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    From your prospective, what makes the DCT so much more enjoyable over a manual and over and automatic?
    I always had a manual till the 458. Never considered the F1 Trans, and I was convinced I would hate the DCT.
    I always drive the car in the "manual" mode in that I use the paddle shifts . Never have it in "automatic"
    Is it as much 'fun' as a manual using your feet and arms/hands to shift?
    No, probably not in my opinion.
    It certainly isn't as engaging, but using the paddles has its own rewards in focusing on the act of driving for me and not focused on the gear changing.
    Would I prefer a manual again? If you had asked me a yr or so ago it was a no brainier, I wanted to shift a manual. Now, I have mixed feelings. The kind of driving I do is all on the streets. I don't track the car.
    When the Cadillac CTS V was being developed the Chief Engineer and the test engineers all told me the auto box was faster. I didn't believe them till I saw the Nurburgring times.
    So the DCT is the future as we know it right now.
    There are passionate arguments on the Ferrari sites regarding manuals V. DCT.
    I believe there is probably a market for each, however, the 430 6sp I had was less than 2% of Ferrari production the yrs it was in production.
    The enthusiasts and press whine about the lack of manuals.........but no one buys them, hence Ferraris abandonment.
    Initially I had a hard time selling the 430 BECAUSE of the manual. No one wanted one.
    Now the cars are sought after because of rarity.


    The Corvette team will do what's right for the customer & the car.
    We'll see how the numbers shake out.
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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by yello430 View Post
    I was initially broken hearted when I found out my 430 was the last manual trans available to us commoners & I couldn't get a manual in a 458
    now i'm a convert to the DCT with the 458 after 3 yrs driving it, not so sure I'd go back to a manual anymore, which is a real shock to me
    and while I may be crazy............... I'm not stupid......I leave the 'nannies' on for the most part
    the car is so much fun to drive
    if the mid-engined Vette can execute a DCT trans as well as Ferrari have done there shouldn't be any issues, but unlike Ferrari I'm betting they will offer a manual
    You may be correct in that gm offers a manual in the mid engine corvette to satisfy enthusiasts like Ferrari did in the early years of DCT s....until consumers showed Ferrari which they preferred with their purchasing decision.

    I suggest that the corvette engineers will offer an automated transmission so that the corvette does t lag behind the new 2017 ford GT with its seven speed DCT on a race course.

    Possibly Chevy will utilize the same transmission as the new mid engine ford GT.

    It will be interesting to see which transmission enthusiast choose in greater numbers.

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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    So, Why cheapen a Halo Car with a Corvette name? Or why lessen the Corvette name with a Halo Car?

    If GM does make an Exotic, they should have a New Name, and possibly Brand.

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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    You may be correct in that gm offers a manual in the mid engine corvette to satisfy enthusiasts like Ferrari did in the early years of DCT s....until consumers showed Ferrari which they preferred with their purchasing decision.

    I suggest that the corvette engineers will offer an automated transmission so that the corvette does t lag behind the new 2017 ford GT with its seven speed DCT on a race course.

    Possibly Chevy will utilize the same transmission as the new mid engine ford GT.

    It will be interesting to see which transmission enthusiast choose in greater numbers.
    I don't think GM will make any of their future models manual only as they did in the past. But, I'm not so sure they'd do a DCT unless they could get their tq converter DCT to work right. As it is their newest 8L90e is a fantastic automatic transmission that is getting great reviews. IIRC, it shifts faster than most DCT's already.
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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by yello430 View Post
    I always had a manual till the 458. Never considered the F1 Trans, and I was convinced I would hate the DCT.
    I always drive the car in the "manual" mode in that I use the paddle shifts . Never have it in "automatic"
    Is it as much 'fun' as a manual using your feet and arms/hands to shift?
    No, probably not in my opinion.
    It certainly isn't as engaging, but using the paddles has its own rewards in focusing on the act of driving for me and not focused on the gear changing.
    Would I prefer a manual again? If you had asked me a yr or so ago it was a no brainier, I wanted to shift a manual. Now, I have mixed feelings. The kind of driving I do is all on the streets. I don't track the car.
    When the Cadillac CTS V was being developed the Chief Engineer and the test engineers all told me the auto box was faster. I didn't believe them till I saw the Nurburgring times.
    So the DCT is the future as we know it right now.
    There are passionate arguments on the Ferrari sites regarding manuals V. DCT.
    I believe there is probably a market for each, however, the 430 6sp I had was less than 2% of Ferrari production the yrs it was in production.
    The enthusiasts and press whine about the lack of manuals.........but no one buys them, hence Ferraris abandonment.
    Initially I had a hard time selling the 430 BECAUSE of the manual. No one wanted one.
    Now the cars are sought after because of rarity.


    The Corvette team will do what's right for the customer & the car.
    We'll see how the numbers shake out.
    Great post. If you're ever in AZ, hit me up so I can experience your Ferrari's DCT......
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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Rode in my first vette at 8, fell in love. Included my continued requirement of a daily driver Corvette in my proposal to my wife. Daily for 30+ years and two in the garage now (vettes - not wives, but I still have the original wife too). As mentioned, the various car rags have assured us several times in the past that a rear-mid vette was on the horizon. HOWEVER, in none of those past occasions did multiple GM management personnel make public statements that a rear-mid is probable. ALSO, the ZR1 proved that a $100k+ corvette - even one that looks VERY MUCH like the "base" vette - will sell. The right package of UNIQUE, TASTEFUL design and Corvette performance will sell even better, IMO.
    I have, and will continue to skip the C7 gen because I detest the horrible rear end design. Even it's great performance does not off-set that rear in my eyes. If the rear-mid vette DOES make it into production AND if they wrap it in a world-class-exotic-competitive design, then I will be one of the first in line. If they keep that C7 rear - my C6 will stay in my garage forever.

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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by SKH View Post
    Says someone who likely hasn't been in a current Cadillac, because if you had you'd know they're not crap.
    Cause they sell so well, they won't sell here that's what I know. The look alone is enough to put me off. Most modern cars do drive well, the trick is the whole package.

    Please just keep them in the US along with Corvette, not because it's a bad car (quite the opposite by all accounts) but because it won't sell in numbers to justify RHD.

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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by hrcslam View Post
    I don't think GM will make any of their future models manual only as they did in the past. But, I'm not so sure they'd do a DCT unless they could get their tq converter DCT to work right. As it is their newest 8L90e is a fantastic automatic transmission that is getting great reviews. IIRC, it shifts faster than most DCT's already.
    The gm 8L90 upshifts at full throttle as fast or faster than Porsches PDK...but it's rather the downshifts or non full throttle up shifts where the DIRECT FEEL of a DCT is superior.

    Since fords upcoming mid engine DCT will be outsourced I'm sure gm will utilize the same supplier for its mid engine corvette......or at the very least should.

    Might offer a manual as that's easy to outsource as well.

    I'm hopeful the DCT makes it's appearance in corvette.

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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by hrcslam View Post
    Great post. If you're ever in AZ, hit me up so I can experience your Ferrari's DCT......
    no problem, you're on!
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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    I forgot how beautiful CERV III was... I still think if GM had built it, awd w/ turbo LT5, it would have been an icon like the 959... so in short, go big GM!
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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Novak454 View Post
    I forgot how beautiful CERV III was... I still think if GM had built it, awd w/ turbo LT5, it would have been an icon like the 959... so in short, go big GM!
    Unless Corvette management has changed, there will be no mid-engine Corvette! There not even an AWD Corvette! The Corvette buyer is still the muscle car crowd! Don't like change!


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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    I'm always amazed of the mid-engine Corvette rumors
    it's been going around since the 60's



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    Re: SCOOP: The Mid-Engine Corvette Will Likely Be Confirmed in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by georgewerr View Post
    I've said it a few times before and I still believe they should make Corvette a sister division to Chevy kinda like Scion is to Toyota. Only allow the dealers that will invest in the infrastructure for a separate area and training for a select few service members. and as dslay04 said why not allow Cadillac dealers (not all) to have this same sister division.

    Have three models, a Stingray, a super car (Ferrari competitor), and a intro car (Fiero type of car). Chevy dealers could sell Camaro's in this same area and Cadillac dealers could include there V series cars to this part of there dealership.
    Corvette used to be it's own brand in Europe, sold separately from Chevy. Not sure if it's still like this now though...
    Thank you troops.

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