S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

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    S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Much has been written about the current Mustang (not least by Ford itself) concerning its conception as a "global car." In particular, much emphasis has been placed on the S550's ability to be sold in RHD markets.

    However, there has been a bit of ambiguity about the car's power output, particularly in V8 form. Top Gear's review of the 5.0 placed output at 412hp, without explanation. Now, we know why. R&T is reporting that some folks have discovered the exhaust on RHD cars is severely compromised in order to clear the RHD steering hardware:

    "Our friends in England and other right-hand drive nations make a very particular sacrifice: thanks to different steering packaging requiring different, more restrictive exhaust headers, leading to a loss of 25 horses from the 435-horsepower 5.0-liter V8."

    This compromise probably goes a long way to explaining why there is currently no RHD Shelby GT350, and also raises questions about Ford's seriousness about the project in the first place. Read more at the link:

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...opean-mustang/
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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Ford offer 435bhp LHD V8 or 412bhp RHD V8 - GM don't offer a RHD V8 (excluding run-out Holden models).

    A compromised choice is better than no choice at all.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Voice of Delusion doesn't worry about missteps by GM only Ford.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    That is really low power output by a V8.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Bush-league engineering and product planning, with beancounters doing the damage and PR supplying the band-aids.

    What. The. EFF

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruperts Trooper View Post
    A compromised choice is better than no choice at all.
    I agree.

    A full-power Camaro SS in England is compromised by still being LHD.

    But it's still way better than a constipated Mustang with RHD.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by supermoto View Post
    Voice of Delusion doesn't worry about missteps by GM only Ford.
    Personal attacks don't make the bush-league product planning go away.

    Again: What. The. EFF

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    That is really low power output by a V8.
    Yea, My first 5.0L GM SB V8 had 145 hp. Good thing I didn't have to settle for a RHD.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    Yea, My first 5.0L GM SB V8 had 145 hp. Good thing I didn't have to settle for a RHD.
    Have you seen the insane amounts of power V6's put out these days? An Equinox V6 puts out 301 horsepower and 272 lb-ft , Porsche panamera V6 horsepower 310 and 295 pounds of torques and these are old motors.. 435 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque is just not enough from a new V8.

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    So Ford designed the car as a RHD vehicle, and in stock form it has 412 HP.

    Then when they designed the LHD version the US and other LHD Countries, they were able to modify the exhaust in a way that gained an additional 23 HP.

    Sounds like brilliance to me!
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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Have you seen the insane amounts of power V6's put out these days? An Equinox V6 puts out 301 horsepower and 272 lb-ft , Porsche panamera V6 horsepower 310 and 295 pounds of torques and these are old motors.. 435 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque is just not enough from a new V8.
    The Camaro has 455 HP from 6.2L that equates to 73.4 HP per Liter; therefore the 5.0L should be equally respectable at 367 HP? (412 ~ 435 your pick)

    The Camaro has 455 FT/TQ from 6.2L that equates to 73.4 FT/TQ per Liter; therefore the 5.0L should be equally respectable at 367 FT/TQ? (390 ~ 400 your pick)

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Seems like a sound business decision to me. I'd assume there was a lot of concern in Dearborn regarding the Mustangs volume overseas with all the bad press about American cars. I'd say this is a good compromise, go in with a small loss in hp via a cheaper way to develop left hand drive. Now they are establishing salability and the next gen will probably be engineered differently and not have the hp loss. I say good job on Ford's part for taking the risk and answering the question. Now, will GM take the same risk? And it isn't even the same risk as Ford has already provided the answer.

    Plus will anyone really notice a few hp out of 400+ hp?

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    Re: S550 Mustang: Is It Truly Global?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    Have you seen the insane amounts of power V6's put out these days? An Equinox V6 puts out 301 horsepower and 272 lb-ft , Porsche panamera V6 horsepower 310 and 295 pounds of torques and these are old motors.. 435 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque is just not enough from a new V8.
    301 HP REALLY!

    Is the 2.3L Eco Boost available with 310 HP 320 ft/lbs 4 CYL. in RHD? No One would miss 23 HP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    So Ford designed the car as a RHD vehicle, and in stock form it has 412 HP.

    Then when they designed the LHD version the US and other LHD Countries, they were able to modify the exhaust in a way that gained an additional 23 HP.

    Sounds like brilliance to me!
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