Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

  1. Welcome to GM Inside News Forum Ė General discussion forum for GM

    Welcome to GM Inside News Forum - a website dedicated to all things GM.

    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, Join GM Inside News Forum today!
     
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

  1. #1
    Chevrolet VOLT Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    10,948
    Thanks
    1,532
    Thanked 3,933 Times in 2,547 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels

    Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Repaired Ford police SUV likely didn’t fail CO test
    Associated Press Published 5:53 p.m. ET Oct. 6, 2017
    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...ide/106378660/

    Correction: An earlier version of this article quoted the Austin police chief saying
    a repaired Ford SUV flunked a carbon monoxide test. He later contradicted that
    previous statement. This story has been updated to reflect this change.


    Austin, Texas — The Austin police chief says a Ford Explorer SUV that the auto company
    repaired for a return to service with his department actually doesn’t appear to have had exhaust
    containing carbon monoxide seeping into it — despite his saying earlier that it did.

    Interim Police Chief Brian Manley said Friday that during a test of three SUVs repaired by Ford Motor
    Company, one tested positive for carbon monoxide.

    But Manley told The Austin American-Statesman hours later that additional testing revealed alarms
    may have activated for some other reason.

    He says: “We do not believe this issue is a Ford issue or related to the repairs they have done.”

    Ford responded to Manley’s original comments by saying the methods it used to address Austin’s
    carbon monoxide problem “have worked well.”

    The story was first reported by The Austin American-Statesman. A police department spokeswoman
    subsequently confirmed the chief’s comments for The Associated Press.

    Ford spokeswoman Elizabeth Weigandt initially said Friday in an emailed statement that, “Ford was
    not provided with information on the levels of CO detected but we are ready to inspect any vehicle.”

    She also said the automaker has “been happy to collaborate with” Austin police on repairs and added:
    “The methods and parts we’ve utilized to repair Austin’s vehicles have worked well to address the concern.”

    Austin police pulled nearly 400 Explorers off patrol in July because of carbon monoxide concerns.
    Police departments across the country use Explorers and several also took them out of service.

    Ford has previously blamed the issue on non-factory outfitters that drill holes into police SUVs to install
    extra equipment like lights and radios.

    But Ford was also investigating why many non-police consumers have also complained to the automaker
    and the government about exhaust fumes — which contain odorless, colorless carbon monoxide as well
    as sulfur and other chemicals — in their vehicles.

  2. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,474
    Thanks
    428
    Thanked 401 Times in 267 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Sierra

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    “The methods and parts we’ve utilized to repair Austin’s vehicles have worked well to address the concern.”

    Like replacing the cracked exhaust manifold?

  4. #3
    6.2 Liter LS3 V8 sonjaab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Syracuse-Alexandria Bay NY-Daytona
    Posts
    3,249
    Thanks
    211
    Thanked 108 Times in 77 Posts

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Funny with al these Ford carbon monoxide complaints.

    Most vehicles now have a ONE piece robot welded exhaust system from the factory.
    (from exaust manifold ends back)
    I am sure carbon monoxide or and other leak could be detected easily with a carbon monoxide
    tester on the lift and running at ANY major shop or dealer repair bay.

    I know from my Experience working at the Cadillac dealer body shop.
    If we had a new Deville/DTS/Etc that was azz ended and the exaust pipe ends were
    bent or any other part of the exaust system was damaged the insurance company
    paid for a whole new one piece system from the manifolds/converter back.

    Unless the insurance adjuster wanted to save a few pennies....................
    Last edited by sonjaab; 10-12-2017 at 12:33 PM.

  5. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

  6. #4
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    1,420
    Thanks
    60
    Thanked 377 Times in 173 Posts

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Bizarre that member12 didn't post this article.
    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Total Wacko
    Goldman Sachs and Ford orchestrated a smear / rumor campaign against the Corvair - well over a year before it came out so this is really nothing except another performance of.....
    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Ridgeback12345
    I could care less about the human rights in China!

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to dratnol For This Useful Post:

    Ed753 (10-13-2017)

  8. #5
    Chevrolet VOLT Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    10,948
    Thanks
    1,532
    Thanked 3,933 Times in 2,547 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by rustywrench View Post
    “The methods and parts we’ve utilized to repair Austin’s vehicles have worked well to address the concern.”

    Like replacing the cracked exhaust manifold?
    Nope, just sealing up body leaks. No more exhaust smell , no more CO fumes.
    Owners of LEV fleets satisfied and all vehicles back at work. Job done.

  9. #6
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,474
    Thanks
    428
    Thanked 401 Times in 267 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Sierra

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Nope, just sealing up body leaks. No more exhaust smell , no more CO fumes.
    Owners of LEV fleets satisfied and all vehicles back at work. Job done.
    No, the article did not specifically say that the hole fixing was the only thing they looked at. They did NOT list what was repaired. Quote: “The methods and parts we’ve utilized to repair Austin’s vehicles have worked well to address the concern.”
    So, what "parts" are they talking about? Exhaust manifolds?

  10. #7
    Chevrolet VOLT Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    10,948
    Thanks
    1,532
    Thanked 3,933 Times in 2,547 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by rustywrench View Post
    No, the article did not specifically say that the hole fixing was the only thing they looked at. They did NOT list what was repaired. Quote: “The methods and parts we’ve utilized to repair Austin’s vehicles have worked well to address the concern.”
    So, what "parts" are they talking about? Exhaust manifolds?
    No, you're forgetting what's already been communicated about the source of the fumes in the cabin and
    how the repairs were all about sealing up leaks int the cabin. Exhaust manifolds were ruled out as the source
    early in the investigation and on the first unit repaired, it took four goes to seal up leaks in the back of vehicles.
    Last edited by jpd80; 10-11-2017 at 09:30 PM.

  11. #8
    7.0 Liter LS7 V8
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    4,418
    Thanks
    327
    Thanked 613 Times in 583 Posts

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by sonjaab View Post
    Funny with al these Ford CO2 complaints.

    Most vehicles now have a ONE piece robot welded exhaust system from the factory.
    (from exaust manifold ends back)
    I am sure CO2 or and other leak could be detected easily with a CO2 tester on the
    lift and running at ANY major shop or dealer repair bay.
    CO2 is what you breath out of your body when you exhale. CO is what kills you.

  12. #9
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,474
    Thanks
    428
    Thanked 401 Times in 267 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Sierra

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Some people just have to get rid of the vehicle for health reasons.
    http://www.civilbeat.org/2017/10/fed...st-complaints/

  13. #10
    6.2 Liter LS3 V8 sonjaab's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Syracuse-Alexandria Bay NY-Daytona
    Posts
    3,249
    Thanks
    211
    Thanked 108 Times in 77 Posts

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by All Star View Post
    CO2 is what you breath out of your body when you exhale. CO is what kills you.
    Yea........Screwed up!
    Now fixed.............

  14. #11
    Chevrolet VOLT Premium Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    The land of the hethan
    Posts
    10,948
    Thanks
    1,532
    Thanked 3,933 Times in 2,547 Posts
    My Ride
    The coffin on wheels

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Quote Originally Posted by rustywrench View Post
    Some people just have to get rid of the vehicle for health reasons.
    http://www.civilbeat.org/2017/10/fed...st-complaints/
    When you sell over a million vehicles of one type, there are sometimes problem vehicles that
    slip through the cracks and as that article showed, the guy traded the Explorer for an F150.


    Interesting that a CO level of 4.6 is considered high in a non-smoker, sort of suggests that
    those who smoke have those sorts of concentrations..


    Simmons said Ford sent an engineer to inspect his vehicle at the dealership.
    The engineer “found levels of carbon monoxide consistent with normal exposure in everyday life,”
    Ford spokeswoman Elizabeth Weigandt said in an email to FairWarning. She said those levels
    would not result in adverse health issues and declined to comment on Simmons’ medical report.
    Last edited by jpd80; 10-13-2017 at 03:45 AM.

  15. #12
    6.0 Liter L76 V8
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    2,397
    Thanks
    637
    Thanked 1,223 Times in 743 Posts
    My Ride
    2019 F150 XLT FX4 Crew Magma

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Ford is expected to make an Announcement today.

    Nothing stated about "Exhaust Manifolds" (sorry Wrench,) but it will be for Retail Customers with concerns.

  16. #13
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,474
    Thanks
    428
    Thanked 401 Times in 267 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Sierra

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    Do announcements help people that are breathing CO?

  17. #14
    5.3 Liter Vortec V8
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    1,474
    Thanks
    428
    Thanked 401 Times in 267 Posts
    My Ride
    2013 Sierra

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    What are ford's motives with some of the tactics they are using? Good video...
    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...449307163.html

  18. #15
    4.6 Liter Northstar V8
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,778
    Thanks
    64
    Thanked 293 Times in 169 Posts
    My Ride
    19 F150 Screw 3.5 EB

    Re: Repaired Ford police SUV likely didnít fail CO test

    So they're people just like you that no matter what Ford does, they can't trust their product anymore even with an unfounded complaint.

    Now keep trying until you get a substantial amount of complaints or proof that there actually is a problem with exhaust manifolds.

  19. Remove Advertisements
    GM Inside News
    Advertisements
     

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.1.2