Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

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    Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    http://www.stangtv.com/news/strong-r...d-ecoboost-v6/

    During the detailing process, the wheels came off, along with the front brakes. It was at this time that Joe discovered something that really has our wheels turning. Joe discovered the front hubs of his new GT350 are splined, like what you would find in an AWD car, or 4WD truck. In talking to fellow GT350 enthusiast Jeff Foster (Who is still awaiting delivery of his GT350R), both surmised the splined hub has to mean something. It must be there for some reason. If we have learned anything about Ford, it’s that nothing is ever accidentally on a car. Every piece is there for a reason. So then, why would the GT350 have splined front hubs?
    Long story short, some guy was pulling apart his GT350, and discovered the front hubs are designed for AWD, with a part unique to the Shelby GT350.

    The speculation is that, the GT500 will be a "baby sister" to the Ford GT, with the same 650-700hp boosted V6, paired with AWD to put the power to the ground.

    While the concept of an AWD turbo-V6 Mustang makes sense, I'm not so sure we'll see the Shelby name on it. Bizarre that a GT350 would have a 5-liter engine, while a GT500 would have a 3.5L engine, no?
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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Not really. The recent tradition of the GT500 is that it inherits the Ford GT motor. In fact, the last gen GT500 continued to develop that motor to the 662 hp beast it became. I kind of wondered if this was coming with the announcement that the GT would use the boosted six.

    The shocker is the AWD. How much power will this motor be making to need AWD? If it was the 600-ish we've been hearing about I'd think the current chassis would be fine. Of course, if the block is robust enough and Ford doesn't care about fuel consumption, you can crank the boost to crazy power levels. And, there will be backlash for a non-V8 GT500 if it doesn't soundly ouperform the last car. Are we looking at a 700+ hp AWD Mustang, complete with 'drift mode'? Can the Focus RS system be 'reversed' to power the front wheels? It's a lightweight system that doesn't require a centre diff and can selectively drive each side wheel. That might make for a remarkably fast GT500 albeit without a ton of steering feel. Good way to differentiate it from the GT350, though.

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Hehe this is the kind of stuff that makes being a car fan and a member here fun! I sure hope it's true, what a way to make the GT500 stand out. And good eye on the guy that spotted this, that's a cool hint that many would never have noticed.
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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Awesome! The 7 speed dual clutch from the GT would be a great option.
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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    It's an interesting notion, and this would certainly have the look and feel of a "spec-sheet hero", much like the Nissan GT-R.

    ~600hp, AWD, and 7-speed dual clutch gearbox would be very very fast.

    The V8 Mafia backlash would be strong. Maybe also deliver a Mustang Mach 1 with a boosted V8 and a nice solid axle, for the drag racing crowd?
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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    So it is a cut rate GT-R?

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butz View Post
    So it is a cut rate GT-R?
    Not much of one. Over 4000lbs just like the GT-R but will probably be under 100k, barely.

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Quote Originally Posted by wescoent View Post
    While the concept of an AWD turbo-V6 Mustang makes sense, I'm not so sure we'll see the Shelby name on it.
    If we don't, we should.

    Quote Originally Posted by wescoent View Post
    Bizarre that a GT350 would have a 5-liter engine, while a GT500 would have a 3.5L engine, no?
    Not really, since it's 2015. Ford is actually living in the modern era.

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    It's an interesting notion, and this would certainly have the look and feel of a "spec-sheet hero", much like the Nissan GT-R.

    ~600hp, AWD, and 7-speed dual clutch gearbox would be very very fast.

    The V8 Mafia backlash would be strong. Maybe also deliver a Mustang Mach 1 with a boosted V8 and a nice solid axle, for the drag racing crowd?
    GT-R is a real life hero.

    I'm ALL for this setup. More reasons to have an AWD V, AWD Camaro. Living in the past won't win you sales tomorrow.

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Quote Originally Posted by big swede View Post
    Not much of one. Over 4000lbs just like the GT-R but will probably be under 100k, barely.
    It needs to match the GT-R, it can't be that only the Japanese can pull off such a supercar wonder.

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    Did he check out the rears? There were lots of AWD Corvette rumors when owners discovered that the front knuckles were designed for a drive shaft as well, but it turned out just to be a parts commonality thing...
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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    The first pony car maker that has the testicles to do AWD will wonder why they waited.

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cphelps View Post
    Did he check out the rears? There were lots of AWD Corvette rumors when owners discovered that the front knuckles were designed for a drive shaft as well, but it turned out just to be a parts commonality thing...
    Allegedly, the GT350's front hubs are a unique part (aluminum to save weight), so there's no commonality with any other Ford product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wescoent View Post
    Allegedly, the GT350's front hubs are a unique part (aluminum to save weight), so there's no commonality with any other Ford product.
    Is it possible they're common with the rear of the GT350s though? That's the case for the Corvette I was referring to.
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    Worth noting, the GT Ecoboost V-6 and awd in a GT500 rumor predates the this discovery. So does the twin turbo Coyote with awd rumor.

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    Re: Next GT500 - AWD with Ecoboost V6?

    Quote Originally Posted by Butz View Post
    It needs to match the GT-R, it can't be that only the Japanese can pull off such a supercar wonder.
    There are claims that the next gen will get anywhere up to 1,200hp.

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