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    Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing
    By Stephen Elmer Apr 04, 2016
    source : http://www.autoguide.com/


    Spy photos have rolled in showing Ford out testing what appears to be an electrified F-150.

    While cruising at 35 mph, the spy photographer claims to have heard the engine shut down, replaced by the electrical buzzing of a hybrid drive. What’s more interesting is that the camouflage on the front passenger-side quarter panel seems to be hiding a charging port, suggesting that this is actually a plug-in hybrid.




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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    GM had Hybrid half tons more than 10 years ago, and if I recall correctly they didn't sell well at all. I am curious can a person still order a Silverado Hybrid? What makes Ford think there is a market for hybrid pickups now?
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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Hybrids are becoming more and more popular now, it's a good market to introduce one so I'm betting it will sell well.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    GM's Hybrid was. "Lets do a mild Hybrid attachment on the worst mileage engine in our Fleet." Totally missed on both sides of any spectrum. Fuel Economy, or Towing Power.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    GM's Hybrid was. "Lets do a mild Hybrid attachment on the worst mileage engine in our Fleet." Totally missed on both sides of any spectrum. Fuel Economy, or Towing Power.
    Tell me how. It improved city MPG from 14 to 21. That is a huge improvement. It WAS ten years ago so the prices were expensive but it was a very good hybrid system. Not much you can do at speed with a brick to really improve MPG. City gains are the largest for any hybrid regardless.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Why does anyone need a 6.0L for city driving?

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Why is does the spy photographer think this is a hybrid? Could it be the start/stop system that is already in the F150? And could Ford be incorporating the fender vents to the F150 that will be on the new HD Fords along with other cosmetic changes?

    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    Why does anyone need a 6.0L for city driving?


    Should the next question be, Why does anyone drive a gas powered vehicle in the city?

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyenne454 View Post
    GM had Hybrid half tons more than 10 years ago, and if I recall correctly they didn't sell well at all. I am curious can a person still order a Silverado Hybrid? What makes Ford think there is a market for hybrid pickups now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jzchev28 View Post
    Hybrids are becoming more and more popular now, it's a good market to introduce one so I'm betting it will sell well.
    Hybrids were down 15% last year, Plug-in's were down over 20%..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    GM's Hybrid was. "Lets do a mild Hybrid attachment on the worst mileage engine in our Fleet." Totally missed on both sides of any spectrum. Fuel Economy, or Towing Power.

    Quote Originally Posted by bballr4567 View Post
    Tell me how. It improved city MPG from 14 to 21. That is a huge improvement. It WAS ten years ago so the prices were expensive but it was a very good hybrid system. Not much you can do at speed with a brick to really improve MPG. City gains are the largest for any hybrid regardless.
    It was a massive failure, and all but complete waste of money; the only thing we can hope is knowledge/technology was learned that ended up in Voltec.


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    Why does anyone need a 6.0L for city driving?
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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    A full hybrid requires two motors and enough battery capacity for charge sustaining mode. Because of the reduction in cost per kilowatt hour of battery capacity along with reduced cell size, the increase in capital cost of a hybrid drive is lower than 10 years ago. When I was doing a lot of IP work in vehicle control systems, there were a lot of filings pertaining to replacing the torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission with an electric motor clutched to the ICE. This provided a parallel hybrid system at the point of input to the gear box wherein conventional torque multiplication via the planetary sets can step up the output. The second motor is locate in in the final drive thus creating, when combined with the first motor, a series parallel system. This approach is ideal because the motor substituting for the torque converter is designed to be input in the same assembly line as the conventional box, thus taking advantage of common process. IMO, the utilization of electric motors in the power transmission path from ICE output to the drive wheels is a better way to meet emissions and fuel economy goals than stop start or cylinder deactivation. And note that this configuration uses electric motors to augment torque delivery through a transmission rugged enough to handle lots of it. Trucks love torque.

    Fuel economy gains?

    Mostly raising the city figure.

    IMO, a peak loaded diesel running at constant rpms is the most efficient way to convert fuel energy to usable work at the drive wheels when a vehicle is going at a constant speed.

    Hybrid technology makes it much easier to meet emissions. It could save the diesel engine. A diesel, when applied to a constant peak load, runs clean. It is when they have to meet a peak torque demand that they generate crap. Motors can provide additive torque and let that diesel keep shrugging its constant load. Keep in mind that the system I cited above, because it allows for a direct mechanical path when the motor are not active, can take advantage of a diesels superior highway speed fuel economy.

    Hybrid does not mean the structure used in the Prius. It is a system that uses electric motors in the drive line. Depending on how the system is set up, it can be very rugged and capable of towing.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Gas prices are the sole reason hybrids were down last year. Idiots have a very very very short memory when it comes to this. They don't remember how nice it was to fill up their trucks at $4-5 a gallon. So, what do they do with that nice tax return? Buy a vehicle that they got rid of a short 3 years due to gas prices. Its lunacy.

    A massive failure? In what sense? Sales wise? Of course. However, it gave you an actual V8 that got 20MPG in the city. Twenty. In 2005! Was it expensive? Yup. Yet now look at the huge amount of $50k trucks that sell! It's outrageous.

    Doh, Im assuming you have no clue what the actual hybrid trucks had done to them because you wouldn't be calling them a mild hybrid.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyenne454 View Post
    GM had Hybrid half tons more than 10 years ago, and if I recall correctly they didn't seel well at all. I am curious can a person still order a Silverado Hybrid? What makes Ford think there is a market for hybrid pickups now?
    Yes but this is a F-150 so it will sell.

    Isn't GM doing a new Hybrid Silverado? I think I read something about that somewhere.
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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by derek77 View Post
    Why is does the spy photographer think this is a hybrid? Could it be the start/stop system that is already in the F150? And could Ford be incorporating the fender vents to the F150 that will be on the new HD Fords along with other cosmetic changes?





    Should the next question be, Why does anyone drive a gas powered vehicle in the city?
    Oh I get it now.

    It is so I can tow my 8000lb boat to and from work everyday, then come the weekend, it is still hooked up so I don't have to hook it up again to go to the cabin. You know the Marina charges SO MUCH to store it there.

    And P.S., Start Stop, doesn't happen while it is driving down the road @ 35 MPH. Or maybe they were testing GM Ignition Switches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    Oh I get it now.

    It is so I can tow my 8000lb boat to and from work everyday, then come the weekend, it is still hooked up so I don't have to hook it up again to go to the cabin. You know the Marina charges SO MUCH to store it there.
    It's a tired argument. Are you the one to determine what someone should choose to drive in the city?

    Quote Originally Posted by doh View Post
    And P.S., Start Stop, doesn't happen while it is driving down the road @ 35 MPH. Or maybe they were testing GM Ignition Switches.
    The photographer claimed he heard this. And the site is claiming to see a charging port. They don't know. The same camoed spy photos of different colored F150s are on other sites saying it's a diesel.

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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    There's a guy in the office complex that drives an Escalade Hybrid. I don't know how hard the guy has treated it, but this think belches smoke as he pulls away. I've never seen the electrics drive it.
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    Re: Ford F-150 Hybrid Spotted Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by derek77 View Post
    It's a tired argument. Are you the one to determine what someone should choose to drive in the city?
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    Not at all. I just would like to know why you need a 6.0L for city driving?

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