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    Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Ford Explorer owners continue to report exhaust smell in cabin

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/nhtsa-re...rer-94593.html

    A recent media report identified 450 complaints in the NHTSA database, a three-fold increase over the 150 complaints that prompted an ongoing inquiry.
    The Ford Explorer has received renewed attention for complaints of apparent exhaust fumes inside the cabin.
    Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Nathan Bomey , USA TODAY

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...fect/97856978/

    U.S. auto-safety regulators are investigating the possibility that exhaust fumes are leaking into certain versions of the Ford Explorer sport-utility vehicle.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched a probe into the matter in July after receiving 154 complaints of "occupants smelling exhaust odors in the occupant compartment, some of which expressed concerns about exposure to carbon monoxide," according to a government document.

    The NHTSA investigation covers 2011 to 2015 Explorers.

    But CBS News reported Monday that the number of complaints has mushroomed to more than 450, including 2016 and 2017 models. The news organization also reported that Ford recently agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit involving the alleged defect in a case filed in Florida.


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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Natural selection...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Natural selection...
    Nice one guys. Not a laughing matter.

    I had a friend that it happened to. Her 1992 Safari Van I sold her had a gap in the Floor to Quarter Panel, where the jack is stored. She hit the ditch after falling Asleep at the wheel. Being a Nurse, she had them run CO tests and found she was poisoned.

    GM sent a Engineer to our Dealership to investigate. GM bought the van at Fair Market Value, (what was left of it) and $1000 towards the purchase of a New GM. They later recalled the LWB Safari's for the same concern.

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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Natural selection...
    Not really funny. How would you like turning on your AC and getting a face full of exhaust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    Nice one guys. Not a laughing matter.
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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Oh really? If it were a GM vehicle I bet you and the other trolls would be saying exactly the opposite. It was a joke. Get over it.
    Never once did I or anyone mention "Natural Selection" with Ignition Switches, although I do remember some GM guy's bringing up Impaired Driving being the cause.

    It's ok though, I see where you stand as far as Right verse Wrong.

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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    FORD

    Fumes Overcome Random Drivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Natural selection...
    I'm thinkin' more like " Floormats " and Operator error.
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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by InCogKneeToe View Post
    Never once did I or anyone mention "Natural Selection" with Ignition Switches, although I do remember some GM guy's bringing up Impaired Driving being the cause.

    It's ok though, I see where you stand as far as Right verse Wrong.
    Since the moderators allowed this thread go a place where it shouldn't have, but refused to address - I'll chime in, and yes I did try about 5:05pm last night...........

    Actually ICKT you bring up a good point, many of the GM apologist laid zero blame on the feet of GM and said the stupid drivers that couldn't control their vehicle were the ones at fault, and thus they deserved what they got.

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    Now speaking to the matter, the first thing I though was early Explorer's are 6~7 years old, maybe something is rusting-out and failing causing the issue, but late-model ones with the same complaint, kinda rules that out.

    Maybe negative cabin air-pressure or back-draft with Panoramic Sunroof?
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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    I do hope that if there is a problem, it is addressed. I know the feeling of Selling something that almost and could have cost someone their life. Even though the Safari that I did sell, at the time had a loose Tail Pipe, pointing upward. There still should have never been a gap in the Floor to Quarter Panel as the Safari had.

    It was interesting afterwards, I began checking the Jack area for Dust and there were quite a few that it was found in. But that with the combination with the tailpipe was the only one that I know of that was CO affected.

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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    CBS News ran a report on this yesterday.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-exp...rbon-monoxide/

    Is your Ford Explorer leaking exhaust?

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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Such an odd problem. Do they know what's causing it?

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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by RamJet502 View Post
    Such an odd problem. Do they know what's causing it?
    I thought the air pressure thing would be a possible cause. It's a concern with minivans and hatches where the exhaust exits near the back lift gate.

    The reports that it blows into the cabin in certain A/C settings is kind of weird though. I just realized that I used the wrong body style Explorer in the picture, but they did expand the probe to include 2016 and 2017 models.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Maybe negative cabin air-pressure or back-draft with Panoramic Sunroof?
    Could be a weird aerodynamic quirk that is drawing air back into the cabin through a perforation like a sunroof or lift gate.

    Kind of weird that the probe only includes Explorer models and not Edge or MKX, which use similar power trains. That leads me to believe that its likely an aerodynamic quirk that can be ironed out pretty easily with weatherstripping or exhaust reroute.
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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Quote Originally Posted by Myron 65 View Post
    FORD

    Fumes Overcome Random Drivers
    *snicker*


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    Re: Feds probe exhaust fumes filling Ford Explorer

    Interesting that the fart juces roll in on full throttle with the windows wound up and A/C on...

    A new level in buyer experience to confirm why you didn't buy that GM with a bung ignition switch

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