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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Big perception issues and reservations in its main market, Australia.

    The initial feedback forom Aussie Ford Forums is disappointment with only a 2.0 diesel,
    the concern is regarding longevity with such a highly stressed engine and the price near $80,000?
    Come on Ford, 85% of Aussie Rangers are the 3.2 I-5 diesels, I suspect that if that engine goes,
    so too will a lot of Ranger sales because those buyers are capacity centric, they don't want an I-4.

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    Why do we have to wait till 2019 for a 8 year old truck? I know Ford is struggle to catch up with automation, but they should have fast tracked the T6 replacement instead of reintroducing the Ranger when it's this old.

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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by birdsvsworms88 View Post
    Why do we have to wait till 2019 for a 8 year old truck? I know Ford is struggle to catch up with automation, but they should have fast tracked the T6 replacement instead of reintroducing the Ranger when it's this old.
    Why does Cadillac only have 1 CUV?

    Why does GM have 4 plants in the US and 1 in Canada dedicated to cars exclusively?

    Why does GM continue to sell a +20 year old van, as well as plan to do so for another 10 years?

    OK, I hope you get my point..... "priorities".

    You know the Ranger is going into MAP; the truck wasn't a priority, I suspect they could have brought it here sooner, but needed to let the current Focus run its course.

    They could have put the truck in a plant that they didn't want to or one that couldn't handle demand; kinda like GM did with the Colorado and Canyon?


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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Big perception issues and reservations in its main market, Australia.

    The initial feedback forom Aussie Ford Forums is disappointment with only a 2.0 diesel,
    the concern is regarding longevity with such a highly stressed engine and the price near $80,000?
    Come on Ford, 85% of Aussie Rangers are the 3.2 I-5 diesels, I suspect that if that engine goes,
    so too will a lot of Ranger sales because those buyers are capacity centric, they don't want an I-4.
    Facebook is going to implode with all the negativity towards this decision to go with a 2.0 diesel as the only engine choice

    Perception is the key and thats why V6 Amarok sales are steadily increasing because they realise what the buyers do with their rigs

    I honestly cant imagine towing up to 3.5 tonnes with a 2.0 diesel it's bad enough with the ~3.0 4 pots available now

    Ford should look at fitting the bigger diesel available in the states in the F150 and GM should look at fitting the STraight 6 into the Collie as well

    For the Raptor they could have looked at the Petrol ecoboost engine that probably would have satisfied the performance junkies
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    The initial feedback forom Aussie Ford Forums is disappointment with only a 2.0 diesel, the concern is regarding longevity with such a highly stressed engine and the price near $80,000?
    Did you see the negativity the US Ranger got when Ford said the only engine would be the 2.3L EcoBoost 4-cylinder? I would be concerned with longevity as well, but as we asked in another thread, we've been seeing spy photos for years. If Ford is worth their salt, they wouldn't just shrug when they find a problem, they should redesign it before the truck goes on sale. This isn't the 1970's anymore.

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    This truck would be sweeeet with the 2.7TT. Not expecting it, but one can dream......
    I thought the same thing. But considering Ford offers 2 states of tune for the 3.5L EB (Raptor/Navigator & all other BOF vehicles), what's to say Ford won't do the same thing for the US Ranger? Personally, I think Ford will want to win the power war on paper & offer the Ranger with Mustang EB power/torque numbers. Both are more than the Colorado/Canyon V6 rating. On a related note, I would really agree that the Ranger Raptor would be better with the 2.7EB. It wouldn't be for the power/torque improvement, but for the stress on the engine. I know, I just commented on Ford testing the engine & everything will be fine, but the perception of over-stressing the engine will never completely go away.

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    Ford should look at fitting the bigger diesel available in the states in the F150 and GM should look at fitting the STraight 6 into the Collie as well.
    The question for both of those diesels would be, could they fit? The 3.0 Duramax I-6 would almost guarantee not to fit in the Colorado, but GM attests that the 2.8L is enough engine for the chassis. I haven't looked over the full specs on the 3.0 PSD, but I'm not sure it would fit if it's a 90 degree V6. Would the heads make it too wide to fit in the Ranger?
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    The question for both of those diesels would be, could they fit? The 3.0 Duramax I-6 would almost guarantee not to fit in the Colorado, but GM attests that the 2.8L is enough engine for the chassis. I haven't looked over the full specs on the 3.0 PSD, but I'm not sure it would fit if it's a 90 degree V6. Would the heads make it too wide to fit in the Ranger?
    My post is only about the Australian market here and could possibly lead to be correct on other global markets too so take what I say in those terms

    The 2.8 in the collie is not enough motor to do what they claim it will do

    That is tow 3500kg

    You can do it but honestly it struggles with any sort of decent hill ( i'm current towing a 1500 KG dry weight Camper trailer with mine which knocks it about enough as it is - it can hold 60-70 MPH on hills but you need to prepare before hand )

    Hilux and Ranger are pretty much exactly the same all the MIdsizers are except the Amarok with the V6 its a much better engine suited for this task but even then if you want to tow that much you will be looking to import a 130k Ram or Silverado or F150

    Since it's clear GM and Ford have little to zero interest in offering RHD versions of their full size trucks they need to offer more engine in the midsizers

    Twin Turbo the 2.8 maybe?

    You can get that in the aftermarket in the states right now

    As far as a V6 being too wide for Ranger there is an aftermarket Coyote V8 Ranger being sold in Australia

    as well as a company doing Ls conversions for Colorado

    google Killarado

    Mad LS3 versions are available and people are buying them at massive mark ups
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Why does Cadillac only have 1 CUV?

    Why does GM have 4 plants in the US and 1 in Canada dedicated to cars exclusively?

    Why does GM continue to sell a +20 year old van, as well as plan to do so for another 10 years?

    OK, I hope you get my point..... "priorities".

    You know the Ranger is going into MAP; the truck wasn't a priority, I suspect they could have brought it here sooner, but needed to let the current Focus run its course.

    They could have put the truck in a plant that they didn't want to or one that couldn't handle demand; kinda like GM did with the Colorado and Canyon?


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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

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    As far as a V6 being too wide for Ranger there is an aftermarket Coyote V8 Ranger being sold in Australia

    as well as a company doing Ls conversions for Colorado

    google Killarado

    Mad LS3 versions are available and people are buying them at massive mark ups
    The LS fitting into the Colorado I can believe. I've read enough about them to know they could damn near fit into a mouse hole in the wall. As I stated, I'm not 100% familiar with the size of the Ford 3.0, so that would be the only question as to would it fit.
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by birdsvsworms88 View Post
    Why do we have to wait till 2019 for a 8 year old truck? I know Ford is struggle to catch up with automation, but they should have fast tracked the T6 replacement instead of reintroducing the Ranger when it's this old.
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

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    My post is only about the Australian market here and could possibly lead to be correct on other global markets too so take what I say in those terms

    The 2.8 in the collie is not enough motor to do what they claim it will do

    That is tow 3500kg

    You can do it but honestly it struggles with any sort of decent hill ( i'm current towing a 1500 KG dry weight Camper trailer with mine which knocks it about enough as it is - it can hold 60-70 MPH on hills but you need to prepare before hand )

    Hilux and Ranger are pretty much exactly the same all the MIdsizers are except the Amarok with the V6 its a much better engine suited for this task but even then if you want to tow that much you will be looking to import a 130k Ram or Silverado or F150

    Since it's clear GM and Ford have little to zero interest in offering RHD versions of their full size trucks they need to offer more engine in the midsizers

    Twin Turbo the 2.8 maybe?

    You can get that in the aftermarket in the states right now

    As far as a V6 being too wide for Ranger there is an aftermarket Coyote V8 Ranger being sold in Australia

    as well as a company doing Ls conversions for Colorado

    google Killarado

    Mad LS3 versions are available and people are buying them at massive mark ups
    Just because an engine will physically fit does not directly mean that the truck still complies
    with all crash protection safety data, there could be lots of changes required to reconfigure
    a V6 to fit into Ranger's engine bay if it was never designed to take one.
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Just because an engine will physically fit does not directly mean that the truck still complies
    with all crash protection safety data, there could be lots of changes required to reconfigure
    a V6 to fit into Ranger's engine bay if it was never designed to take one.
    That's not really my point

    I know you wont get many towing with a Raptor but my point about a V6 fitting and what engine they chose for this truck stands

    Ford has misread the Australian market badly in this case and the responses on social media to the news say it all.

    Customers expected more power and something you cant get from anywhere else

    Ford gave them a wildtrack plus 20k
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    Re: Everything There Is To Know About The New Ford Ranger Raptor

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    Big perception issues and reservations in its main market, Australia.

    The initial feedback forom Aussie Ford Forums is disappointment with only a 2.0 diesel,
    the concern is regarding longevity with such a highly stressed engine and the price near $80,000?
    Come on Ford, 85% of Aussie Rangers are the 3.2 I-5 diesels, I suspect that if that engine goes,
    so too will a lot of Ranger sales because those buyers are capacity centric, they don't want an I-4.
    Those who complained probably have the same mindset as those who think a full-size F150 Raptor should only have 8 cylinders.

    PS: About the Ranger Raptor's 210HP 2.0 liter diesel being stressed. I wonder how BMW X5's 228HP 25d 2.0 liter inline-4 diesel and the Land Rover Discovery Sport's 240HP 2.0 liter inline-4 diesel are holding up, these two has even more HP/L than the Ranger Raptor's engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AG3* View Post
    Those who complained probably have the same mindset as those who think a full-size F150 Raptor should only have 8 cylinders.

    PS: About the Ranger Raptor's 210HP 2.0 liter diesel being stressed. I wonder how BMW X5's 228HP 25d 2.0 liter inline-4 diesel and the Land Rover Discovery Sport's 240HP 2.0 liter inline-4 diesel are holding up, these two has even more HP/L than the Ranger Raptor's engine.
    Theyre not hauling around 2.3 tonnes of truck
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