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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Now the rest of the story; We'd been talking about replacing the MKX, wife said "I get to pick this time".

    10 months ago while at the Auto Show, I was giving all the Compact/Mid-Size CUV a thorough view, ironically way back then I remember the Rogue standing out, which leads us to today, or yesterday...........

    Didn't get real serious until I found a buyer for the MKX, which was in Mid-August. We could have easily kept it another year or two, still had 18 months on its CPO Status.

    Started shopping a bit, but then my dad got sick and consume pretty-much any and all free-time, we still had 2 cars, and shortly after my dad fell ill, I started driving his Impala.

    We looked at the GM's Equinox & Terrain; both new and old. I probably would have got a 2017 Terrain if it had keyless start, not a fan of the exterior of either of the 2018's and the wife really takes issue with the Start/Stop, she went from "I'll drive one if I have too" to "I don't want it, can't do it". Additionally, I didn't like that the Terrain was made in Mexico, and we agreed the Envision being made in China, was a non-starter.

    Escape was a viable option, but an AWD, Titanium Trim (required to get keyless) was pretty pricey; buy or lease, next.

    Jeep Dealer had a couple TrailHawk Cherokee's (wife re-confirmed, Grand Cherokee was too big) not a terrible option although it seemed pretty small; pricing was around $27K OTD or $315/month lease. I probably could have squeezed a bit more out of them, but when I went down for a test drive, i was unpleasantly surprised that a ~$34K MSRP vehicle, had key-type ignition AND a manual (non-power) seat!? If the weasy 4-cylinder didn't do it in, the lack of those 2 features did............

    Hyundai Santa Fe Sport seemed to be worth a deeper dive, but my wife's sister has one (they don't get along well) and I couldn't get over how poor the fuel economy was, I look at a few, but not too hard.

    The Gen I Mazda CX-5 didn't impress me at all, when I drove one as a rental car a couple years back, and not a fan of the new "wedge-nose" look, Mazda Dealer is a bunch of A-holes didn't help, end of story.

    Took a look at the Honda CR-V, even got the wife to test-drive one; talk about firm on price, sheesh (and proud of their stuff) lease was over $400 purchase was over $30K and that wasn't even with Navigation, which we wanted. (to get Navigation, you have to step-up to the EX-L *leather*)

    After all of that, we found ourselves circling back to the Rogue, I physically talked to 7 different Nissan Dealers; some eager to deal, some eager to deceive (smoke & mirrors, Wizard of OZ type stuff) and some downright delusional (as if they are the only Nissan Dealer in the county).

    I originally set out to find an SV with the Navigation Package and few other itemized options, one of them being Fog Lights, which didn't prove easy and almost forced me to move up to the SL, which they came standard, but the jump in price was pretty big, so I was trying to not go that route.

    Color choice was also a bit of a challenge, my wife's preferred exterior color was white, and after seeing how light, the tan (almond) interior was, we wanted the charcoal.

    After getting some pretty good pricing, one as far away as Chicago, I found a White (pearl) SV with charcoal interior, navigation (and fog lights)

    The Dealer was just far enough away to understand, that I wasn't going to drive across town to get a price, wheel-and-deal, so we did all of that on the phone.

    In the end, I had a Pearl White 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV, with charcoal interior, navigation, floor-mat package, day/night mirror, chrome rear bumper plate and fog lights.

    MSRP: $30,910 - Purchase: $24,500 + Tax/Docs ~$26,200 OTD or Lease: $250/month (36 months, 12K/year) Sign-and-drive.

    I really wanted to buy it, but knowing my "habits" I went with the lease, and worst-case, the buyout on the lease is only ~$16,500 - The money factor is so low, there is almost no penalty to buy at the end, so I've got the flexibility, yet none of the risk!

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    I got home at dark, and been raining since, so this is one of the only pictures I have...............

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Good luck with the Rogue! Enjoy!

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    You Rogue You!

    I notice them on the road, more than others of their class, so there's something about them that stands out.Nice looking ride. I'll have to ck the specs, presume it's in the SF Sport size category and maybe 3500 lb.?

    Mmm, OK, checked CD test. Looks like it's about Sorento size. SF, SF Sport, Sorento, Rogue, all within spitting distance size-wise.

    Hope your better half enjoys it!
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    You Rogue You!

    I notice them on the road, more than others of their class, so there's something about them that stands out.Nice looking ride. I'll have to ck the specs, presume it's in the SF Sport size category and maybe 3500 lb.?

    Mmm, OK, checked CD test. Looks like it's about Sorento size. Hope your better half enjoys it!
    The Gen I was pretty homely looking, but the update in 2014 was a winner, they just did a refresh in 2017, added a few features. FEB (Forward Emergency Braking) and updated the nose and tail, LED's, etc.

    It is super-roomy inside, back seat, 60/40 folds flat (so carseat on one side, folds flat on the other, and the rear seat reclines and slides forward and back.

    I think it is a tick narrower than the Santa Fe Sport, but a tick longer, it is designed to accommodate a 3rd row (optional) so without the 3rd seat, it's got "UGE" storage configuration and room.

    The feature/content is truly impressive; it got that tailgate open with a wave of your foot, along with heated steering wheel, just to name a few.

    I've been seeing that new Chevy commercial where they have the stack of competition, say the Equinox has more options than all of these...........

    The thing they don't mention is "at what price"?
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Thank you Ed753 for recounting your adventures "going Rogue"! Ed753's story is an excellent personal anecdote explaining why Nissan Rogue became the best selling crossover type vehicle in the U.S. earlier this year. These things are insanely popular in Mississippi and Tennessee, where Nissan and Infiniti vehicles in general have a much higher market share than the U.S. as a whole.

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    “The Nissan Rogue is a good size, it has good packages” and it’s in a hot segment, [Edmunds.com analyst] Jessica Caldwell said. “Above all, Nissan is very adamant in growing their sales, so I think there’s probably a lot of price flexibility for the consumer. And they’re going to get a lot of bang for their buck.”

    [Nissan USA VP] Judy Wheeler rejected the suggestion that Nissan is pursuing more aggressive incentives than its competitors on crossovers.

    “People realize that this is the place you need to play to be successful in the U.S. market,” she said. “We’re in a really good position.”

    Wheeler said Nissan dealers are desperate for more inventory of the Rogue, which is made at factories in Smyrna, Tenn.; Kyushu, Japan and Busan, South Korea.

    “You know you have a hot vehicle when they’re sending you notes and calling, asking you for more production,” she said. “I think it resonates with people because it’s the right car at the right place at the right time.”
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Congratulations on your Rogue. Your shopping/browsing experience sounds a bit like mine. Most of my initial interactions with the competition was done at the car show and I'd decided for me it came down to an Escape, an Equinox, a Compass (the new one),or the Rogue. The Jeep had a cheap interior I thought and center console lid was down right floppy. The Equinox last gen. was nice but more than I wanted to spend for the equipment I was getting and it being a tweener at the time a bit too big. I don't like or cant stand the dash on the Escape So that left me where I am today. I had a choice of two left over '16 models because of the sale price they were offering them at and took regular white over the pearl white one with same equipment. I hope and think you'll be happy with it. I know I sure am with mine.

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Why not another Lincoln?

    Where was it "made"?

    I'm amazed at some of Honda's leasing schemes. $400/month for a CR-V? Wow. When I picked up my 2017 Acadia I also looked at the new Pilot, which I really like. For a comparably equipped Pilot the fine folks at Honda wanted somewhere in the $500-600/month range. That discussion ended quickly.
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Quote Originally Posted by impala02 View Post
    Why not another Lincoln?

    Where was it "made"?

    I'm amazed at some of Honda's leasing schemes. $400/month for a CR-V? Wow. When I picked up my 2017 Acadia I also looked at the new Pilot, which I really like. For a comparably equipped Pilot the fine folks at Honda wanted somewhere in the $500-600/month range. That discussion ended quickly.
    It's hard to get a good deal on Honda SUV's right now because they're selling so quickly. Dealers still don't have decent inventory of the CR-V and Honda is just now starting to catch up with Pilot demand and it came out over two years ago. You can steal previous gen Accord and 17 Civic's though.

    Ed, like the Rouge. They are really nice little SUV's.
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Quote Originally Posted by impala02 View Post
    Why not another Lincoln?
    Wife was never comfortable in the MKX; size/seating position, etc.

    CPO MKC's around here are holding there value very well, and despite what many people around here think, I'm loyal to my wallet not any particular brand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by impala02 View Post
    I'm amazed at some of Honda's leasing schemes. $400/month for a CR-V? Wow. When I picked up my 2017 Acadia I also looked at the new Pilot, which I really like. For a comparably equipped Pilot the fine folks at Honda wanted somewhere in the $500-600/month range. That discussion ended quickly.
    That was for an EX Cloth, to get Navigation, you need to step-up to the EX-L, then add the Navigation Package to that, at least another $2,500 or $70/month payment.

    I'm the type of person that if I the deal is reasonably close to where I want to get; I'll play, but when you are +$100/month more - forget it.

    (I told one Nissan Dealer; he was $3,000 - $4,000 off; [he was about $2,500 too high] he accuse me of not comparing Apples to Apples, told me to make sure it was AWD and that the MSRP's were close/same........ (they were, actual the one I bought was higher optioned) it's why I always shop around a bit and I did get a crazy deal from a Dealer in Chicago, figured as long as I got a local deal within $500 of that one, I was good, because a day-plus trip was worth at least that)

    My Aunt just bought a CR-V Touring, I'm sure it'll be fine for her, she is the type of person that buys a new car every 10 years whether she needs to or not.

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    congratulations on the Rogue

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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Congrats on the rogue!

    A couple weeks ago I talked to a Chrysler dealer that thought they were the only one on the planet. I feel your pain on that one, I’ll never go back there.
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    Re: Going Rogue - Ed's 2017.5 Nissan Rogue SV AWD

    Congrats! Seem to be a very popular crossover. I rented one in VA last year and came away impressed by its quiet ride. Looks way better than big brother Murano too imo.

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    Oh the dreaded words "I get to pick this time" Never ends well for me lol. Hopefully you fair a bit better hahahahaha.
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