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    The Decision is Made

    Dear GMI Colleagues:

    After nearly two years of looking I have chosen a replacement for my 1999 Tahoe POC.

    It is a 2014 Cruze diesel.

    I employed a very analytical method to reach this decision. Over the years I developed a matrix that evaluates cars based on:

    A) durability - 16 criteria with a total value of 34%.

    B) safety and security - 12 criteria with a total value of 22%.

    C) comfort and convenience - 17 criteria with a total value of 22%.

    D) economy - 3 criteria with a total value of 22%.

    Here are the vehicles I considered and their scores out of a maximum 100:

    Tahoe PPV - 56.4

    Impala 9C1 - 59.1

    Tahoe 1LT - 55.4

    Volt - 59.0

    Cruze diesel - 59.6

    Yukon commercial fleet - 57.0

    If I was to buy on gut it would be a Tahoe PPV, but as you can see the Cruze diesel has won this assessment. So I will be placing my order this week.

    BTW is anyone interested in a 14 year-old dealer-serviced Tahoe with 132,000 miles?
    Last edited by Tomko; 05-19-2013 at 05:03 PM.
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    All of that analytical effort and you did not even consider anything outside of GM?

    There are SO many great choices out there, limiting yourself to one brand is crazy IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    All of that analytical effort and you did not even consider anything outside of GM?

    There are SO many great choices out there, limiting yourself to one brand is crazy IMO.
    Before ordering my 2008 DTS, I drove Audi and Mercedes-Benz and didn't find their offers compelling - so I wasn't going to go there again.

    I did drive a Hyundai Genesis three years ago, and while I liked it, for whatever the reason I did not run it through my criteria. Thanks for the reminder - maybe I should...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    All of that analytical effort and you did not even consider anything outside of GM?
    What can he say, he's big into analysis...lol!

    That was an interesting equation up there dude. Much more than I use when buying a vehicle. Good luck deciding!!
    Last edited by Mr. Burns; 05-19-2013 at 08:56 PM. Reason: made anal into analysis. mods have fun too you know
    Get used to more.

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    Re: The Decision is Made

    Cruise diesels a cool choice. Good luck and enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeetheUSA View Post
    What can he say, he's big into anal...lol!

    That was an interesting equation up there dude. Much more than I use when buying a vehicle. Good luck deciding!!
    I've been described as intellectual and cerebral. Not sure what to say on the anal front except that I own a Toto Washlet.

    On average I keep my cars ten years so I need to make sure that I have more than an emotional attachment that will wane in seven years or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomko View Post
    On average I keep my cars ten years so I need to make sure that I have more than an emotional attachment that will wane in seven years or less.
    I can echo that sentiment with new cars. My prior one was a daily driver 9 years (overlapped my Intrigue for a year so I really had it for 10 years) and I'm 12.5 years into driving my Intrigue. Currently 210K miles on it.

    Back when all I could afford was used cars, I'd keep them 2 or 3 years.

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    I hope you are very happy with your choice! Going from a Tahoe to a Cruze - are you sure you aren't giving up too much size/cargo/towing abilities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    I hope you are very happy with your choice! Going from a Tahoe to a Cruze - are you sure you aren't giving up too much size/cargo/towing abilities?
    It is a concern. As you can see from my sig I've always had big cars.

    I originally went to the Tahoe because it was rear wheel drive and was a police model. I had previous success with the RWD / police-spec combination and wanted to repeat it. The size wasn't really a consideration and I don't tow. But after 14 years I've gotten used to the size.

    I'm sure it will be an adjustment going to a smaller car but if it doesn't work out I can always add a K2XX Tahoe to my fleet next year. (But don't tell my wife.)
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    1988 Caprice 9C1 (first new car)
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    Tomko -- Congratulations! and be sure to post pictures of the engine compartment when you get it...is it "tighter" than the current 1.4LT powertrain unit?

    FWIW--I, too, use the 'numerically-weighted & excel-matrixed' "coin-toss" method of car buying (wink,wink).
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    And I thought I over analyzed things.................

    However, as diligent as your evaluation was, IMHO, I think its flawed, you are obviously not applying proper weight to some of your criteria, if the best choice is a Cruze diesel has a score of only 59.6 out of 100 and the worst (Tahoe LT, which is about as extreme opposite from a Cruze you can get) scores 55.4 out of 100, it tells me it doesn't really matter what you buy/drive.
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    I hope you enjoy the northeast Ohio built Cruze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    And I thought I over analyzed things.................

    However, as diligent as your evaluation was, IMHO, I think its flawed, you are obviously not applying proper weight to some of your criteria, if the best choice is a Cruze diesel has a score of only 59.6 out of 100 and the worst (Tahoe LT, which is about as extreme opposite from a Cruze you can get) scores 55.4 out of 100, it tells me it doesn't really matter what you buy/drive.
    That's what my brother said... But I prefer to think that my six finalist are all strong candidates. Both Cruze and Volt scored well in economy. Tahoe scored highest in durability but poorly in economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70AARCUDA View Post
    Tomko -- Congratulations! and be sure to post pictures of the engine compartment when you get it...is it "tighter" than the current 1.4LT powertrain unit?

    FWIW--I, too, use the 'numerically-weighted & excel-matrixed' "coin-toss" method of car buying (wink,wink).
    Thank you 70AARCUDA for your support via PM here and also at cruze talk.

    EDIT: I've downloaded the 2014 Cruze Owner's Manual and it has diagrams of all three engine bays. The 2.0 definitely looks more packed than the others.
    Last edited by Tomko; 05-19-2013 at 11:20 PM.
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    2014 Cruze Diesel (daily grinder)
    2008 DTS Lux III (pleasure craft)
    1996 Impala SS (garage queen)

    Retired Fleet:
    1999 Tahoe PPV (14.5 years / 135,879 miles)
    1988 Caprice 9C1 (first new car)
    1984 6000 STE (first car)

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