Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

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    Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Does anyone know the justification for having both the Impala and the Malibu? I used to consider the Malibu to occupy a class between the Impala and the Cavalier, but the new Malibu seems larger (I don't know if it's just a trick of the eyes), and with the seemingly-larger Cobalt and the addition of the Aveo, I really don't understand Chevy's sedan lineup. Why is there no Bonneville clone?
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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Well, Impala is due for a redesign. Until then, there will be some overlap.
    Chevy's car lineup from the bottom up goes: Aveo, Cobalt, Malibu, Maxx, Monte, Impala, SSR, Vette.

    Personally, I wouldn't want to see a Chevy Bonneville.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    I think that the Impala could be classified as a full sized car. Its very big, even if room isnt.
    But on the other hand, when I look at the Malibu, and then teh Camry, Accord, and Galant...I dont see how the very small Malibu fits in with teh mide sizers. Maxx, ok, but the regular Malibu seems small.
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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    The Impala is supposed to be a full sizer.
    Its not on the same level of largeness that the old Caprice/Impala was (those were gargantuan, the wagons were like tiny suburbans!).

    The advancement of design allows car makers to make smaller cars on the outside, while retaining size for its segment on the inside. Of course i think theres a limit to how much they can squeeze out of specific designs.

    If you want to see overlap you should take a look at Chevy's Canadian lineup.

    (in terms of class, smallest to largest)

    Aveo, Optra/5, Cavalier, Cobalt, Epica, Malibu/Maxx, Impala, Monte Carlo, SSR, Vette.

    Obviously the Aveo is the smallest.

    But then there are the Optra, Cavalier and the Cobalt. Now we know the Cobalt replaces the Cavalier, but then we got the Optra and the Cobalt. Both are in the same class.
    And theres also the Epica and Malibu. Both look to be the same class (Malibu looks bigger tho). The Epica looks more luxurious in comparison, only until you put it side by side with a top level Malibu.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Yea, the Malibu is small compared to the Camry, but the Impala is sure as hell small compared to the 300 and Five Hundred. Forget about the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis, which I see as the true full-sizers. And like I said, the Grand Prix isn't considered Pontiac's full-size model, so I don't see how the Impala fits as Chevy's.
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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Actually, both the Malibu sedan and Camry have 101 cu ft of interior space (Accord has 102, Maxx 106). Vehicles are classified as to size category by the EPA based on interior volume.

    I bet the '06 Impala squeaks into full-size, since the 500 is classified as one.

    The decision was made years ago to "layer" the GM line-up so that the biggest Chevy stops at the Impala (then Lumina), Pontiac the Bonnie, etc. Notice how Buick doesn't start with anything smaller than the LaCrosse. Olds had no Cavalier companion.

    It does make some sense. Especially because I feel that GM has too many models anyway.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    I don't see how it makes sense for Pontiacs "layer" to extend to a true full-size car, while the everyman's division is stuck with the smaller vehicle.
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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    MARKETING.

    The mid sized market is the largest versious the full size which is under 10% of the market.

    I always wondered how in 1999 GM could start with 2 platforms W and H and wind up with 2 very simular sized cars.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    I think what we are seeing is a mish-mash of whats left of Old GM and the new comers of New GM.
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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Both the Impala and Malibu are selling excellent. So I guess there is a market for both.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by nsap
    Both the Impala and Malibu are selling excellent. So I guess there is a market for both.
    For now anyways nsap, as for the Impala beginning next year the Monte Carlo/Impala line will be shut down an extra week Jan 3rd till the 9th and two more weeks sometime in March/April.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by SS4EVER
    For now anyways nsap, as for the Impala beginning next year the Monte Carlo/Impala line will be shut down an extra week Jan 3rd till the 9th and two more weeks sometime in March/April.
    Won't that be so they can update that line for the redesigned 2006's?

    Either way, the Impala is not going to get bigger until it moves to the Zeta platform in 2008.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    The impala is technically classified as a full size car.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    A full-sized car, as classified by the EPA, measures atleast 120 cubic feet of interior room including trunk space. Both the Impala and Malibu Maxx fall into this category.

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    Re: Why does Chevy have two midsize sedans and no fullsize ones?

    Anyone who wants extra space should just get a Malibu Maxx. The Impala is old GM.

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