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    Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    I know the SS was a marketplace failure, but I have been reading up on the Tesla Model S, upcoming Model 3, and the impressive new Chevrolet Bolt....and I'm starting to think that Chevrolet's halo sports sedan should be modeling the Tesla S more than a BMW 5 series or Corvette.

    I seriously General Motors needs to work on a rear wheel drive chassis that is optimized to be a fully electric vehicle. Some people are reporting that the Bolt can achieve up to 250 miles on a charge, and that cars with a 30% gain in range over the Bolt is probably less than 5 years away. Everything I've read about the technology in that car is very impressive, but the criticism is that it does not offer sexy styling like the Model S.

    Could Chevrolet sell a 250 mile range fully electric rear drive sports sedan for $55,000? A Cadillac with similar underpinnings and the latest autonomous driving capability could probably fetch $75,000 or more. Both would have the benefit of a wide network of dealerships, which could also be hosts for DC charging stations.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    No. But Cadillac could.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by dslay04 View Post
    No. But Cadillac could.
    I think Cadillac offering an all electric sports sedan on a rear drive chassis optimized for a fully electric power train is a no-brainer. If they aren't working on that right now, they are being incredibly foolish. Tesla changed the game. Cadillac won't be able to take an existing conventional chassis like Omega and run an electric drive train with it. They to dive into this market fully committed. They need a fully electric rear and all wheel drive chassis on which to base one (and eventually several) sports sedans and crossovers and they need it ASAP.

    I'm very interested to see if the Bolt chassis can be adapted for more "pleasingly" styled cars for Chevrolet and Buick's lineup with 250 mile ranges in the near future.
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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    They will only offer it, initially, to the high sales price segments.

    They will release it to gouge worthy prices, and only after it tanks at those prices will it make its way to the masses.

    Anyone else would offer it to the masses, and then also offer it to the lux/perf market at a premium, Tesla, not a main stream manufacturer and excepted. a As a start up, they are going straight to the upscale high profit market initially; they have to.

    GM is just gouging the discretionary spender customer base, as usual.

    Henry Ford's approach is not ever going to go outdated.

    GM will yet cry for a bailout once again.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    And what price would they sell it!? The Compact Caddy-Volt started at 75-large............ 90, 100, 110?
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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbide View Post
    They will only offer it, initially, to the high sales price segments.
    EV's are still "early adopter" stages. They could command higher prices than their conventional cars so long as they act quickly.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by member12 View Post
    EV's are still "early adopter" stages. They could command higher prices than their conventional cars so long as they act quickly.
    Well, it has to actually be a good product this time. The margin on the ELR would have been incredible if they could have sold them. High price doesn't equal high class...

    Luxury shoppers understand this, GM doesn't seem to.
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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Accardi View Post
    Well, it has to actually be a good product this time. The margin on the ELR would have been incredible if they could have sold them. High price doesn't equal high class...

    Luxury shoppers understand this, GM doesn't seem to.
    Had the ELR been an EV capable of Bolt-type range, it may well have done much better.
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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbide View Post
    They will only offer it, initially, to the high sales price segments.

    They will release it to gouge worthy prices, and only after it tanks at those prices will it make its way to the masses.

    Anyone else would offer it to the masses, and then also offer it to the lux/perf market at a premium, Tesla, not a main stream manufacturer and excepted. a As a start up, they are going straight to the upscale high profit market initially; they have to.

    GM is just gouging the discretionary spender customer base, as usual.

    Henry Ford's approach is not ever going to go outdated.

    GM will yet cry for a bailout once again.
    The business model at GM seems broken. I see I am not the only one that fears they may be headed for another crisis and possibly a bailout. Don't give it to them, instead show them what they should have had the first time, some tough love.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Had the ELR been an EV capable of Bolt-type range, it may well have done much better.
    ELR was 3 generations ago, and it was not a true sports car.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    Cuv s are killing sport sedans in the marketplace sales race..

    GM needs more sporting cuv s like a Porsche Macan with electric power only as a GMC or Cadillac..

    A Chevy version would be cool too...

    Sedans not needed...cuv s to the rescue as far as consumer preferences these days..

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    The SS was a marketplace failure because GM wanted it to fail as an Aussie import.
    The last Impala SS sold 6,000 to 24,000 to almost 41,000 its third year, and who knows what the true market would be? And why discontinue a model with increasing sales?
    Could GM sell an electric sport sedan? Of course, but only at gouge-worthy prices.
    GM has a broken pricing plan, gouge first, then fire-sale after failure. BK looms if they won't fix their pricing that discourages and angers its followers, while aiding and abetting its competitors. Its almost as if they are trying to fail!!!!!!!
    My suggestion is to price their products toward the fire-sale end, and IF they sell rapidly, THEN raise prices, carrying the aura of successful car versus another GM loser.
    Many of us here on GMI can see how GM could be more successful, why can't they???!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBsZ06 View Post
    Cuv s are killing sport sedans in the marketplace sales race..

    GM needs more sporting cuv s like a Porsche Macan with electric power only as a GMC or Cadillac..

    A Chevy version would be cool too...
    I think a Chevrolet "sports crossover" would be a great idea. An X4/6ish form-over-function crossover will inevitably be offered by a non-premium manufacturer. Nissan was (still is?) considering a Z-branded suv. This could sit outside of chevrolet's mainstream suv/crossover hierarchy and feature Camaro and/or Corvette styling rather than the corporate chevy face. The model range would be topped by an SS.

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    The question is: if GM offers it, will you actually buy one ? What's the take rate on manual Cruze Diesel hatchbacks ? Or the other internet fantasy rigs that "everyone" claims to want and no one ever buys ?

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    Re: Could Chevrolet sell an engaging, fun to drive all electric sports sedan?

    I'd just like a petrol sports sedan.

    With a V8.

    That I drive and park with my own hands on the wheel. No star wars electronic self-driving/self-parking lane departure back up camera bullsh!t.

    I'd settle for cloth seats if I could even get the car as described.

    Why is this too much to ask?

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