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    GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Wonder how much of the next gen fullsize trucks will be composed of this alloy?

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Name is awkward; Hurcalloy rolls off the tongue a little easier.

    Hucralloy is a missed opportunity.

    Reminded me of this:

    http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...inum/84558702/

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Well at least GM is using Hucralloy then, and not aluminum like on those F-150's, or as so many people on here so affectionately refer to as "beer can trucks". So I guess those aluminum critics are going to stop buying GM now?

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    Well at least GM is using Hucralloy then, and not aluminum like on those F-150's, or as so many people on here so affectionately refer to as "beer can trucks". So I guess those aluminum critics are going to stop buying GM now?

    I assume GM will follow the route of the Cadillac CT6 which used a combination of materials. Aluminum in some areas and high strength steel in others, which makes the most sense. High strength steel in the bed(inner bed surfaces), and aluminum on the outter surfaces which aren't subjected to the abuse the inner bed receives. The roof and hood, engine compartment inner fenders, door beams, IP structure, all those parts should be aluminum. I'm hoping they shrink the overall dimensions of the truck as well. The current 1/2 tons IMO have gotten too big and could use a little down sizing, just a tad.

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    It will be interesting to see how they market this in the trucks and Cadillacs.
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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by 61BelAir View Post
    I'm hoping they shrink the overall dimensions of the truck as well. The current 1/2 tons IMO have gotten too big and could use a little down sizing, just a tad.
    It has gotten ridiculous, but with the reemergence of the mid-size trucks I highly doubt we'll see any downsizing from GM or Ford anytime soon. My personal preference would be for current 250/2500 and above to remain their current size, 150/1500 to shrink a bit, and the Colorado/Ranger to also shrink just a bit, back to their S-10 and old Ranger sizes.

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    It has gotten ridiculous, but with the reemergence of the mid-size trucks I highly doubt we'll see any downsizing from GM or Ford anytime soon. My personal preference would be for current 250/2500 and above to remain their current size, 150/1500 to shrink a bit, and the Colorado/Ranger to also shrink just a bit, back to their S-10 and old Ranger sizes.
    nice idea but would fly as well as a lead balloon
    everybody wants a 4 door truck with a "real" box and rear seat room and the S10/Ranger in 4 DR crew cab had a PUNY box

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    Well at least GM is using Hucralloy then, and not aluminum like on those F-150's, or as so many people on here so affectionately refer to as "beer can trucks". So I guess those aluminum critics are going to stop buying GM now?

    I have not heard what alloy GM will be using, please enlighten us what the difference between Fords Aluminum Alloy and GM's "Hucrallor" aluminum alloy?

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    I don't recall Ford ever speciying which alloy they use.

    They've only ever mentioned 'aircraft', and that tends to be a reference to 6061 and various grades of temper, T6 being the most common, but they seem to rely on the vast majority of buyers being clueless, and are more than willing in keeping them uninformed, while GM has taken the Brawndo route.

    I guess that the alloy has something to do with their welding process I linked to above.

    When Ford was introducing the idea of riveted and glued aluminum body assemblies, GM was alluding to a welding process, even before the truck was released, instead of rivets, that they have apparently become production confident with.

    I suspect the alloy is for optimum conditions for that welding process, and not just for plain panel superiority.
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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbide View Post
    I don't recall Ford ever speciying which alloy they use.

    They've only ever mentioned 'aircraft', and that tends to be a reference to 6061 and various grades of temper, T6 being the most common, but they seem to rely on the vast majority of buyers being clueless, and are more than willing in keeping them uninformed, while GM has taken the Brawndo route.

    I guess that the alloy has something to do with their welding process I linked to above.

    When Ford was introducing the idea of riveted and glued aluminum body assemblies, GM was alluding to a welding process, even before the truck was released, instead of rivets, that they have apparently become production confident with.

    I suspect the alloy is for optimum conditions for that welding process, and not just for plain panel superiority.
    Yeah all I've ever seen from Ford was that it was "Military grade" aluminum, which for someone that works in the aerospace industry always causes me to chuckle a bit.
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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by georgewerr View Post
    I have not heard what alloy GM will be using, please enlighten us what the difference between Fords Aluminum Alloy and GM's "Hucrallor" aluminum alloy?
    And the first in a possibly long line of GM defense arguments has begun!

    People on here haven't been complaining about Ford's use of say, 5052, or 6061 ALLOY, or whatever they use.

    Nope. People have been ridiculing Ford for use of ALUMINUM, period. Not a type of Aluminum alloy, just plain ALUMINUM. Now that GM has their goofy new name (it's not good if I have to keep referring back to how it's spelled... I still can't say it), apparently that's okay because it's their own "special" alloy? Kinda like the Corinthian Leather of Aluminum?
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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    And the first in a possibly long line of GM defense arguments has begun!

    People on here haven't been complaining about Ford's use of say, 5052, or 6061 ALLOY, or whatever they use.

    Nope. People have been ridiculing Ford for use of ALUMINUM, period. Not a type of Aluminum alloy, just plain ALUMINUM. Now that GM has their goofy new name (it's not good if I have to keep referring back to how it's spelled... I still can't say it), apparently that's okay because it's their own "special" alloy? Kinda like the Corinthian Leather of Aluminum?
    Mostly people were giving Ford a hard time about placement and durability. At this point all we know is the name.

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    So I guess there will not be anymore commercials where they drop bricks in the bed of the trucks since I guess GM's will now get holes as well?

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    Re: GM Files Trademark on Aluminum Alloy: HUCRALLOY

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrehotrods View Post
    Well at least GM is using Hucralloy then, and not aluminum like on those F-150's, or as so many people on here so affectionately refer to as "beer can trucks". So I guess those aluminum critics are going to stop buying GM now?


    I wonder if it is "Military Grade" HUCRALLOY?

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