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    Sonata N-line reviews....

    Accord Owners Beware? Hyundai Sonata N Line First Test. There’s a new kid in school—who wants your lunch money.
    Hyundai was kind enough to lend us a production-spec prototype Sonata N Line to put to the test. How does it hold up? Frankly, it's excellent.
    With newfound power and torque, this Sonata slings to 60 mph in just 5.3 seconds.
    Drivers are most likely to feel the difference in passing power. Hyundai's N-modified Sonata accelerates from 45 to 65 mph in 2.5 seconds compared to 2.8 in the Accord or Camry. The quarter mile flashes by in 13.9 seconds.

    Full article here: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/hyun...a-n-line-test/



    First drive review: 2021 Hyundai Sonata N Line is a monster hiding in plain sight
    I did not have high expectations for the new 2021 Hyundai Sonata N Line, in large part because I do not have high expectations for this class of car in general when it comes to performance. A day in the Sonata N Line proved me wrong. It’s an instantly baffling, entertaining, and excellent car.
    Not many vehicles compete directly with the Sonata N Line on power and price. The two most notable examples are the Nissan Maxima and Toyota Camry TRD. But it’s hard to call them competitors because the Sonata N Line drives absolute circles around both of them.

    Full article here: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ew-photos-info
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    Re: Sonata N-line reviews....

    That would be my choice in that class of cars. I'm not sure how the resale value holds up compared to the Accord/Camry. I'm sure that would be a downside of it.

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    Re: Sonata N-line reviews....

    Hyundai is really on a roll lately even with some of their styling choices.

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    Re: Sonata N-line reviews....

    That thing looks like they purchased the Malibu stampings from GM and put an even uglier face on it. It may be a really good car, but it's a really ugly car, no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    That thing looks like they purchased the Malibu stampings from GM and put an even uglier face on it. It may be a really good car, but it's a really ugly car, no thanks.
    The Kia K5 gt has different styling but it's basically a mechanical twin. If you like the car but don't like the styling of the Hyundai, the Kia is another option.

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    Re: Sonata N-line reviews....

    Had a new Sonata as a rental. Drove a bit over 500 miles. Nice car, great safety features, drives nice enough, got great f/e numbers (about 34 mpg). Outside is ugly, thought maybe having it for a few days I would warm up to it...nope, the rear end is nicer to look at. If anyone is still buying sedans it should do ok. I've rented worse.

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    Quickest (to 60) FWD midsize family sedan MT has tested since the Fusion Sport (both clocked at 5.3s).

    There have been reviewers who have stated that they think it's not only better than the Accord Sport, but the new TLX as well (quite a bit quicker than the TLX), with another stating that it's the only FWD family sedan that has the high speed stability of a German.

    Would have been nice if Hyundai had included an LSD, but even without it, torque steer isn't bad; but it does affect power delivery pulling out of bends.

    The standard Accord is better than the standard Sonata, but it seems like the N-Line has usurped the Accord Sport.
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    Re: Sonata N-line reviews....

    Quote Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    That thing looks like they purchased the Malibu stampings from GM and put an even uglier face on it. It may be a really good car, but it's a really ugly car, no thanks.
    Even if that were the case,at least Hyundai is doing something with it that GM wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Buttons View Post
    Even if that were the case,at least Hyundai is doing something with it that GM wouldn't.
    . True. GM's modus operandi is to throw in the towel and just kill it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1958carnut View Post
    . True. GM's modus operandi is to throw in the towel and just kill it off.
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    Even if that were the case,at least Hyundai is doing something with it that GM wouldn't.
    How does Hyundai make money on these is the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    How does Hyundai make money on these is the question
    The domestic automakers would seem to have higher costs for their product, thus lower profit margins per vehicle sold in this market due to labor costs. I don't have the specific info on Hyundai to confirm this but you can take a look at the article below that discusses domestic labor costs:



    Based on the number of workers in each company, the increased labor cost would add between $800 million and $1 billion to the automakers’ expenses by 2023. Those are costs the companies will look to offset in other ways, however they are expected to widen labor cost gaps with foreign competitors that don’t have a unionized workforce in the U.S.

    Full article here: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/labo...-up-to-1b.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    How does Hyundai make money on these is the question

    Economies of scale, plus performance-oriented models are higher priced and can be quite profitable (Cupra is the most profitable part of SEAT).

    The new 2.5T motor is in numerous Hyundai/Kia models, in addition to Genesis models (different tune).

    The new 8 spd wet DCT is not only offered in N and N-Line/GT variants, but something like the new Sorento and FL Santa Fe.

    The Sonata already had the highest ATP in its segment; the recent launch of the hybrid and the impending launch of the N-Line should keep it there for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    How does Hyundai make money on these is the question
    Cheap Korean labor! Oh wait, where's that Korean auto workers union thread...
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    GM & Ford couldn't make money in this segment because no one was willing to pay MSRP for the higher trims that came in at over 30k...Look no further than Honda and Toyota where 30k 2.0T Accords and those beautiful White/Black/Red XSE Camrys are a dime a dozen. Buyers look to them because they hold value. No one wants to spend 36k on a Malibu premier only to find out 2 months later that it's worth 15k on a trade in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    How does Hyundai make money on these is the question
    I don't think they do

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