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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    Nissan/Infiniti's VQ37 comes to mind...Other than that I can't think of anyone else
    300 HP? GM V6 puts out 335, and even in FWD Applications, it makes one more horse 301

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    300 HP? GM V6 puts out 335, and even in FWD Applications, it makes one more horse 301
    VQ37 makes 350 in the NISMO Z, 332 in other applications
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    VQ37 makes 350 in the NISMO Z, 332 in other applications
    That’s impressive for Nismo, I would love to see a Nismo vs V6 1LE comparo. Does Nissan do SAE certs on their motors?
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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    This forum is all types of silly at times, I am sure that because the engine doesn't make a billion horsepower people will call the engines under powered. I don't think that I can call anything that Mazda makes right now under powered though as they make power in line with their segments.

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    Inline 6 is good for torque and smoothness. Lexus used to have the Supra inline 6 , guess its time again for the inline six.
    We will see how the Duramax is when it hits the youtube test fleets

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    What naturally Aspirited V6 right now puts out more power than the new GM V6 3.6 liter.
    That's because everyone is moving to Turbo/Supercharged 3.0 Sixes including Cadillac.
    Times change. Things never stay the same. I just wish that GM would make an inline. I think inline sixes are just better overall engines.
    If you think about it, makes way more sense now. Most engines Globally for GM is 4 Cylinders so an inline makes much more sense in today's market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momolos View Post
    That's because everyone is moving to Turbo/Supercharged 3.0 Sixes including Cadillac.
    Times change. Things never stay the same. I just wish that GM would make an inline. I think inline sixes are just better overall engines.
    If you think about it, makes way more sense now. Most engines Globally for GM is 4 Cylinders so an inline makes much more sense in today's market.
    Inline 6 engines went out of favor as vehicles moved to a transverse mount and front wheel drive, going from an I-6 to a V-6 in that situation makes sense. For RWD cars they can more easily accommodate for longer engines such as an I-6 engine. With FWD vehicles moving to I-4 turbochargers it frees them up to produce I-6 engines for applications in which they make sense. This isn't the first time that the auto market has been dominated by inline engines, I-8 engines use to not be uncommon in the US.

    Though I really don't see I-6 engines becoming as common as they use to be, after all GM has probably produced more I-6 engines then BMW has produced vehicles in its history. I don't see automakers producing those platforms in mass numbers where an I-6 engines works.
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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by momolos View Post
    That's because everyone is moving to Turbo/Supercharged 3.0 Sixes including Cadillac.
    Times change. Things never stay the same. I just wish that GM would make an inline. I think inline sixes are just better overall engines.
    If you think about it, makes way more sense now. Most engines Globally for GM is 4 Cylinders so an inline makes much more sense in today's market.
    The only way an inline six works for performance if if one places the Engine completely behind the front Axle, this is why a V6 works take the 80's Supra, excellent Rally Car, terrible road course car, inline six sat on the front Axle. Not good..

    Here is to long hoods..

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    The only way an inline six works for performance if if one places the Engine completely behind the front Axle, this is why a V6 works take the 80's Supra, excellent Rally Car, terrible road course car, inline six sat on the front Axle. Not good..

    Here is to long hoods..
    I do like a long hood, hope to see more of them.

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by big swede View Post
    Yeah I don't have a lot of faith in them coming up with a top notch engine.
    The common theme is:
    I4=2.0
    I6=3.0
    V8=4.0

    That means Mazda will do something goofy and come up with a 2.5 liter I6 and be underpowered compared to everyone else.
    Didn't they have a small displacement V6 in the 90's? I vaguely recall the MX-3 carrying a V6, something like 2.0 litres or less.

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by sdotjeezy View Post
    lol @ the last few posts...

    Anyway, the article also states that Mazda is going to push upmarket...which will be very interesting. Reason why it'll be interesting is because they won't have a downmarket sibling to sort of dilute their upmarket aspirations. They'll almost be like a Japanese BMW or MB in that regard.
    Wonder if they will they will follow thru with the "Amati" which was going to be their lux brand to go up against Lexus and Acura back in the 90's but never happened.

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Let Them Fail View Post
    Wonder if they will they will follow thru with the "Amati" which was going to be their lux brand to go up against Lexus and Acura back in the 90's but never happened.
    They would be well advised to follow through. Kia and Hyundai now have Genesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    They would be well advised to follow through. Kia and Hyundai now have Genesis
    Given the headwinds the auto industry is going to face over the next 5-10 years I'm not sure. That requires a major investment.

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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    GM with its great divisions used to be masters of building straight six engines. Good to see Mazda doing updated straight six. Doubt GM will do a gasoline I6 engine though, they are heavily invested in FWD engineering and moving away to electrics.
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    Re: Mazda developing an all new straight six engine

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    They would be well advised to follow through. Kia and Hyundai now have Genesis
    They don't have to create another brand...Mazda isn't really a volume brand as is, they're already a niche brand. All it'll be is a refocusing from one niche to another if they go through w/ the push upmarket.
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