Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

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    Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Ford has experienced massive manufacturing problems with the 2020 Explorer and Aviator, requiring the vehicles to be moved to another plant and undergo repairs: https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...ry/2292795001/

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Can't pretend to understand the complexities of manufacturing, but it always surprises me to read things like this. Years of development and planning, but then run into serious issues when you're ready to produce.
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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    When these things get as complex as, oh I don't know, say a 737 Max8, stuff happens.

    Better to fix it now. But they otter be up front, word will leak out as it always does.
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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Guess they haven't gotten any better at it since the 2013 MKZ, which was a huge clustermess at launch.
    Meanwhile, XT6 rollout goes smooth as silk...
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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Interesting article. What an ongoing, COSTLY disaster!! BEWARE any 2020 Explorer/Aviator.
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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    What is the issue at Ford that they seem to have a significant amount of launch issues over the past 10+ years. I'm not saying other manufactures don't have issues, but I don't recall reading about fiasco's to this magnitude at other makes.

    The Aviator is such an important launch for Lincoln, it has the potential to pull in conquest customers and something like this can scare some off.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Hopefully things get rolling more smoothly soon.

    Nice vehicles but I would not buy one at this point. You know you are asking for trouble.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    In this particular case, I'd say its best to pass on buying the 1st year production vehicle and let them work out the bugs.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    To no one's surprise, these new builds are experiencing transmission problems. I don't know why Ford has such a hard time getting their transmissions right for new launches.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    What is the issue at Ford that they seem to have a significant amount of launch issues over the past 10+ years. I'm not saying other manufactures don't have issues, but I don't recall reading about fiasco's to this magnitude at other makes.
    Ford was "stuck in a product drought" from 2015 until now, according to this Reuters article from 2017, the year Jim Hackett became CEO. Basically, Ford went from having only a few new product launches in the U.S. market a few years back to an all out product onslaught taking place now that will eventually replace 75% of Ford's U.S. lineup with new models by CY 2020.

    Ford will have the freshest lineup among all full-line automakers in the U.S. next year, but it looks like the company will experience some pain getting there.
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    Can't pretend to understand the complexities of manufacturing, but it always surprises me to read things like this. Years of development and planning, but then run into serious issues when you're ready to produce.


    I always wonder how many intentional acts of poor assembly are done on purpose by UAW members, leading up to a national contract expiration - when some of the UAW officials are “talking tough” to the media to stir-up the membership.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

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    I always wonder how many intentional acts of poor assembly are done on purpose by UAW members, leading up to a national contract expiration - when some of the UAW officials are “talking tough” to the media to stir-up the membership.
    Stuff happens....you can put all the money you want into product design/development but at the end of the day, you're dependent on the competence of those assembling the product. We all should be concerned as all automakers are subjected to the same labor pool.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    Wait for the 2021 model I guess.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

    It takes them years to sort out their transmission problems. I'd wait for a 2024 model.

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    Re: Massive Manufacturing Problems with the 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator

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    I always wonder how many intentional acts of poor assembly are done on purpose by UAW members, leading up to a national contract expiration - when some of the UAW officials are “talking tough” to the media to stir-up the membership.

    You never know. I wouldn't put it past some warped union minds. It would seem counter-productive, but then they really can't be fired.
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