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    Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Mahindra Eyes Another Plant In Michigan To Bolster Bid For Postal Service Vehicle Contract

    Bradley Brownell
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    Mahindra is looking to add an additional factory to its arsenal in Michigan, and is scouting locations in Detroit, Oakland County and Genesee County are under consideration. In addition to the current Roxor off road vehicle, which has been built in the U.S. for about a year now, Mahindra hopes to add a government contract worth $6 billion to build the replacement for the U.S. Postal Service’s mail delivery vehicles, according to Crain’s Detroit Business.

    The U.S. Postal Service has made use of Grumman’s Long Life Vehicle to deliver the mail for literally decades. It’s a terrible old design that does not have air conditioning, has finicky heating, and drives like a Chevy S-10 Blazer with a GM Iron Duke engine and a TH180 automatic transmission with a weird body plopped on, because that’s exactly what it is.

    More importantly for the purposes of the USPS, the Grumman LLV has been out of production since 1994, and currently costs about half a billion dollars in repair work annually. And they average about 10 miles per gallon of gasoline, which is an astronomical expense for the underwater Postal Service. Allegedly half of the proposed postal vehicles are hybrid or electric powered. We know very little about Mahindra’s application, as it’s barely even been seen out testing.

    Mahindra is one of six finalists to build the new postal truck, alongside AM General, Karsan, Oshkosh, Utilimaster, and VT Hackney. The winner of the contract will be paid about $6 billion to produce 180,000 new vehicles across a six year period, and supply parts for the vehicles for twenty years.

    “If we get a piece of that or all of that contract, that opens a bunch of doors, shuts a few other ones,” Mahindra Automotive North America CEO Rick Haas told the members of the Troy Chamber of Commerce. “If we don’t get it, it shuts some doors, opens some other ones. So we’re going to evaluate it all.”

    Haas later said that the company has six products in development that it could bring on board to help fill out a new production facility. The Indian company currently builds and ships about 30 Roxor units per day, and an automatic transmission version of the Roxor is coming on line soon.


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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    The U.S. Postal Service has made use of Grumman’s Long Life Vehicle to deliver the mail for literally decades. It’s a terrible old design that does not have air conditioning, has finicky heating, and drives like a Chevy S-10 Blazer with a GM Iron Duke engine and a TH180 automatic transmission with a weird body plopped on, because that’s exactly what it is.

    More importantly for the purposes of the USPS, the Grumman LLV has been out of production since 1994, and currently costs about half a billion dollars in repair work annually. And they average about 10 miles per gallon of gasoline, which is an astronomical expense for the underwater Postal Service.
    All that plus a propensity to go up in flames!

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Postal vehicles make so much sense for electric it's not even funny

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Canada post retired the LLV's years ago and replaced them with MK I transit connect vans and RHD accord wagons
    also one thing NOT mentioned is the LLV's have an S10 front end and a C/K rear end making the track wider in the rear and that causes handling issues
    in Canada the LLV's was NOT well liked and the OLDER VW-Grumman Kurbmaster were prefered by posties because they were FWD had better heaters and NOT an asymmetrical track
    I am surprised FCA is not bidding with a RHD "postal jeep" based on the NEW wrangler a fixed roof 2WD wrangler with Hybrid and Diesel drive sounds like a good "base" to start from
    I assume USPS ordered the LLV's as RHD and LHD

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    All that plus a propensity to go up in flames!

    Hmm, I can honestly say I've never seen a toasted mail truck.

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Bloomberg reporting Workhorse is also bidding the contract and will use Lordstown if successful.

    But what happens if they don't win the Postal contract - do they still need Lordstown Assembly?

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    So why would the contract go to a foreign entity if American firms like Oshkosh and AM general are bidding?

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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    So why would the contract go to a foreign entity if American firms like Oshkosh and AM general are bidding?
    The same reasons as any other federal government contract: some companies are better able to fulfill the contract's requirements than others. And for that matter, some companies are better able to engage in the politics associated with submitting the winning bid, whatever that entails.

    With the U.S. military, companies based outside the U.S. like BAE Systems win contracts all the time. Their U.S. subsidiaries are governed by American executives using mechanisms like proxy boards and SSAs.
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    Re: Mahindra Going Postal In Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbukukanyau View Post
    So why would the contract go to a foreign entity if American firms like Oshkosh and AM general are bidding?
    because more competition makes for a batter and lower cost winning bid AND any company operating in the USA will be an AMERICAN division of said foreign company

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    I would think a Ford Transit Hybrid would be about perfect for the Postal Service......
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