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    Re: Ford Posts Best Retail Share In Five Years ...

    Again, Down 33% is still Down 33%

    Ford is heavy in Commercial Fleet which was down 78% but Rentals were down 94%.

    But overall, a 1% Market Share Gain is still better than the Others.

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    A hollow victory, but it's still additional money in Ford's pocket vs. being down more.

    Is the Explorer up simply because of their botched launch last year? I don't recall when they started launching the Explorer.

    Unrelated to Ford, but related to sales volume - anyone see that Tesla's market cap is now greater than Toyota's? Unbelievable. While I'm one of the few on GMI that thinks Tesla is cool, that's just plain stupid that Tesla's market cap exceeds Toyota, I think Toyota has the highest market cap (or had the highest market cap) of all automotive makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post

    Is the Explorer up simply because of their botched launch last year? I don't recall when they started launching the Explorer.
    Explorer was a all new vehicle, (FWD based to RWD based) made in the same plant, so there was always going to be a significant production lag.

    The one wound-down in Q1 and the other restarted in late Q2, inventory build was suppose to bridge the gap.

    All things considered, being even YOY for Q1 & Q2 combined seems like a least a small feat.

    The next 12 months is going to be a challenge for everyone, some more than others (and not just auto-makers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Explorer was a all new vehicle, (FWD based to RWD based) made in the same plant, so there was always going to be a significant production lag.

    The one wound-down in Q1 and the other restarted in late Q2, inventory build was suppose to bridge the gap.

    All things considered, being even YOY for Q1 & Q2 combined seems like a least a small feat.

    The next 12 months is going to be a challenge for everyone, some more than others (and not just auto-makers).

    The 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator new model “production lag” was due to Ford and the UAW building thousands of defective new vehicles, many of which had to be trucked to another state to be repaired before being sold (or junked).

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    The point Ed was making was that 2020 Explorer and Aviator production started May 2019 but on sale date
    was around late June/early July so Q2 2019 sales were all out going model sales, the problems with the new
    models actually showed up in Q3 and Q4 sales.

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    Honestly, are any of the automakers out there, save for Toyota, solvent right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackGTP View Post
    A hollow victory, but it's still additional money in Ford's pocket vs. being down more.

    Is the Explorer up simply because of their botched launch last year? I don't recall when they started launching the Explorer.

    Unrelated to Ford, but related to sales volume - anyone see that Tesla's market cap is now greater than Toyota's? Unbelievable. While I'm one of the few on GMI that thinks Tesla is cool, that's just plain stupid that Tesla's market cap exceeds Toyota, I think Toyota has the highest market cap (or had the highest market cap) of all automotive makes.
    GM needs to bring over Fords spin masters, they know how to weave tall tales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Burr View Post
    Honestly, are any of the automakers out there, save for Toyota, solvent right now?
    Mother Barrah said she can swing a profit at around 12 Million SAAR, I guess her claims are going to be tested

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1999 White C5 Coupe View Post
    The 2020 Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator new model “production lag” was due to Ford and the UAW building thousands of defective new vehicles, many of which had to be trucked to another state to be repaired before being sold (or junked).
    It was a new vehicle, completely new, a FWD based platform to a RWD, meaning a lot more than a normal change over; GMT900 to K2XX, to T1XX, etc.

    Many of the issues you speak of, were related to electronics/technology.

    Did they have issues? Yes!
    Did some make it out to be more than it was? Yes!

    The repairs were done at a Ford facility that had space and resources to fix.

    Explorer was low on inventory, and high in demand, slowing/stopping the line would have moronic.

    I'm just glad the problems weren't as bad as what GM went through with the Gen I to Gen II Cruze.............


    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    The point Ed was making was that 2020 Explorer and Aviator production started May 2019 but on sale date
    was around late June/early July so Q2 2019 sales were all out going model sales, the problems with the new
    models actually showed up in Q3 and Q4 sales.
    My point was just painting a time-line of where Ford Explorer; production, inventory and sales were; looking YOY.

    Speaking of looking-back, the Aviator didn't exist last year, so the 4,000 Aviators is a net gain of 2,750 (MKT's) last year.

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    Well, this is where Ford's strength in commercial is going to hurt them. How many businesses are going to be buying new vehicles??

    Shoot, how many businesses are still going to be in business in 6 months.
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    If businesses stop buying vehicles, so do people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    The point Ed was making was that 2020 Explorer and Aviator production started May 2019 but on sale date
    was around late June/early July so Q2 2019 sales were all out going model sales, the problems with the new
    models actually showed up in Q3 and Q4 sales.
    My point was just painting a time-line of where Ford Explorer; production, inventory and sales were; looking YOY.

    Speaking of looking-back, the Aviator didn't exist last year, so the 4,000 Aviators is a net gain of 2,750 (MKT's) last year.
    Clearly, sales figures are only part of the story as today's sales mix is much richer and a better use of resources.

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