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    Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    "Another Ford F-150 10R80 transmission class action lawsuit has been filed. The lawsuit alleges that occupants inside the truck can suffer whiplash because of how hard and erratically the transmission shifts. The 10-speed transmission in the lawsuit was jointly developed by GM and is found in multiple cars and trucks sold by both automakers".

    Not sure if GM has any lawsuits pending regarding their 10-speed auto trans?

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    https://fordauthority.com/2020/01/fo...lawsuit-filed/

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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Didn't FoMo and GM co-develop this 10A? Sometimes New And Improved, isn't.
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    YUK - And they put them in everything across the board...............

    Is the problem bad because there are so many out there, or because the failure rate is high?
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Maybe this is why GM has been slow to introduce the 10 speed across the board? Waiting for the first round of problems to be found and fixed?
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Maybe this is why GM has been slow to introduce the 10 speed across the board? Waiting for the first round of problems to be found and fixed?
    Meanwhile they stuff the infamous 8-speed while they wait..........................

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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed753 View Post
    Meanwhile they stuff the infamous 8-speed while they wait..........................
    Consumer Reports' latest automotive reliability survey data indicate that owners of 8L45 and 8L90 equipped GM vehicles are experiencing transmission problems at extraordinarily high rates. Is there any hope for a permanent fix?

    Here's info on the class action lawsuit against GM regarding these transmissions: https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-s...ors-litigation
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Consumer Reports' latest automotive reliability survey data indicate that owners of 8L45 and 8L90 equipped GM vehicles are experiencing transmission problems at extraordinarily high rates. Is there any hope for a permanent fix?

    Here's info on the class action lawsuit against GM regarding these transmissions: https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-s...ors-litigation
    If they were grown-ups, they'd just admit defeat by a superior being and buy or license the ZF 8A. Like those dopes at Mopar did.

    In the real world, I doubt there's a dime's worth of difference between an 8 and a 10, except in some engineer's mind.
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    If they were grown-ups, they'd just admit defeat by a superior being and buy or license the ZF 8A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neanderthal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Consumer Reports' latest automotive reliability survey data indicate that owners of 8L45 and 8L90 equipped GM vehicles are experiencing transmission problems at extraordinarily high rates. Is there any hope for a permanent fix?

    Here's info on the class action lawsuit against GM regarding these transmissions: https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-s...ors-litigation
    If they were grown-ups, they'd just admit defeat by a superior being and buy or license the ZF 8A. Like those dopes at Mopar did.

    In the real world, I doubt there's a dime's worth of difference between an 8 and a 10, except in some engineer's mind.
    The big difference is royalties to ZF and yes Ford knows all about that with the 6R80 being a licensed copy of the ZF 6HP. So yeah, Ford is done with the ZF merry go round.

    Consider how many 10R80s are now on the road and by sheer weight of numbers, something would rear its head, real or imagined.

    FCA has no choice but to go buy ZF transmissions because it has no spare cash.
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckMan View Post
    Maybe this is why GM has been slow to introduce the 10 speed across the board? Waiting for the first round of problems to be found and fixed?
    GM is saving that for the top trims; it is all for profit, remember? Don't want the top trim? Here is a 6 speed and shut up, peasant.

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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    The owner who filed the lawsuit alleges that he purchased a 2018 F-150 SuperCab in September 2018 when the truck had 10-miles on the odometer. The owner claims that by 6,000 miles, the truck was making loud clanking noise from the 10-speed transmission that caused rough shifting and shift times that were much too long.
    Isn't this what Warranty is for?

    Not a Class Action Lawsuit!

    My 1998 GMT400 puke it's transmission at 8000 kms, I didn't start Class Action Lawsuit. My 2008 F150 has just puked #4 4R75 in 218,000 (snow plowing) kms. Nope still no Class Action Lawsuit.

    We have sold Many 10R80's equipped trucks (including 1 to me). I have yet to see any of them on the bench. Even more 6R80's (including 1 to me) with only 1 on the bench and maybe 10-12 Lead Plate replacements.

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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
    The big difference is royalties to ZF and yes Ford knows all about that with the 6R80 being a licensed copy of the ZF 6HP. So yeah, Ford is done with the ZF merry go round.

    Consider how many 10R80s are now on the road and by sheer weight of numbers, something would rear its head, real or imagined.

    FCA has no choice but to go buy ZF transmissions because it has no spare cash.
    Yes and no. Someone can probably answer this, how many man-years (pardon me, person-years) and engineering dollars and diversion of resources and delayed implementation did it cost for FoMo/GM to work this 10A up, vs licensing the ZF 8A going on for ten years ago?

    Penny wise and pound foolish still applies. Having customers sue you because your trannie injured them is not high on my scale of desired outcomes, somebody made a boo-boo.

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    Isn't this what Warranty is for?

    Not a Class Action Lawsuit!

    My 1998 GMT400 puke it's transmission at 8000 kms, I didn't start Class Action Lawsuit. My 2008 F150 has just puked #4 4R75 in 218,000 (snow plowing) kms. Nope still no Class Action Lawsuit.

    We have sold Many 10R80's equipped trucks (including 1 to me). I have yet to see any of them on the bench. Even more 6R80's (including 1 to me) with only 1 on the bench and maybe 10-12 Lead Plate replacements.
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Does ZF even have a 10A yet? If not, Ford/GM would probably still have to pay for them to develop it. And then they'd probably have to pay for some upgrades to ZF's facilities to add the new capacity for two large customers. It's probably not as cheap as you think. And then each one will be more expensive than GM and Ford can make it themselves. So there's lots of reasons to keep development in house - especially if you want to save money. I'm not sure that outsourcing a tranny would remove GM/Ford from liability anyway. Lawyers can always find a way to target the people with the deepest pockets.
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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Ha....Whiplash from erratic transmission shifting? That must be some serious, hard hitting shifts!!! I would guess this is more about Lawyers and some sue happy people trying to make a buck. I'm not saying the transmission is bulletproof, it may have some problems, but whiplash? Come on..really?

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    Re: Ford F-150 10R80 Transmission Class Action Lawsuit Filed.

    Quote Originally Posted by gkr778 View Post
    Consumer Reports' latest automotive reliability survey data indicate that owners of 8L45 and 8L90 equipped GM vehicles are experiencing transmission problems at extraordinarily high rates. Is there any hope for a permanent fix?

    Here's info on the class action lawsuit against GM regarding these transmissions: https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-s...ors-litigation
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